This was my first question. Even the EDC crowd generally know not to mix fire and firearms.
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This was my first question. Even the EDC crowd generally know not to mix fire and firearms.
Inciweb has certainly changed.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Much different from the old brown link list page.
I like the new format. Glad to see the integration between desktop and mobile platforms.
Reads to me like they are rolling the dice and hoping to save money if the demand for tankers is low. Since climate change/global warming predicting more fires is Chinese propaganda, I'm sure this will turn out to be a very good bet.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Just wait until all of those tankers are committed elsewhere and calfire says hey we're not letting you use our tankers for extended attack on your fires until they threaten our land.
I guess we'll see what happens when more expensive subdivisions that never should have been built where they are burn and the communities flip out because "somebody should have done something". How come it's always the feds' fault and never the counties'?
Fs needs money
Cant be spendin it on air planes
We'll see the results in october
Cant be spendin it on air planes
We'll see the results in october
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Thats how we ended up with a 747 tanker on a cnw contract last season.
There are several large sales being researched here abouts, but they are trying to appease the public, get needed road work done, and make money... all 3 won't happen, the road work is too much for the loggers to make money on, and the timber is nice enough, but its all thins on difficult ground, meanwhile the roads have to stay open for the public to access... public meaning in my book tree huggers, that may or may not be inclined to sabotage logging equipment parked over the weekend...
It's a vicious circle. Time to revisit the ESA, I think. All laws should be revisable. Opinion shouldn't drive policy.
Today is Hazard Tree Situational Awareness on the Six Minutes for Safety calendar.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Yep, I remember my forestry class at reedley did a field day with a very seasoned sierra national forest timber sale inspector who described the 01 north fork fire salvage as one big f...up and no trees removed due to all the studies and assessments had to take place. By 09 the timber was long past no good and taken care of by the 2015 willow fire and last years mission fire.
A few fairly successful salvage operations are the French(2014) and Aspen fire(2013) salvage operations. Salvage removal started in 2014 on the aspen just after the french fire had burned the north side of the river. Salvage removal started on that in 2015.
The requirements were more or less the same at the beginning on all but the north fork fire kept needing revised impact studies that drove up the cost and reduced salvagable acreage from 585 to less a 1/4 of that. Its weird that two operations next to a wilderness area only needed 1 or 2 environmental impact studies while the one near a few homes and cabins needed constant revision of its impact studies.
It's all about the opinions. No dissenting voices means things move quicker.
More bad news for Oklahoma - first the earthquakes, now drought-driven fires.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=92013
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=92013
Ah, geeze.
RandyMac
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Could be a busy season, but we don't need to worry about the Kalmiopsis burning this year.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Rx burn on the Shasta got a little sideways.
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5761/42743/
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5761/42743/
