First Saw Race

[chainsaw-57]

Any advice for an amatuer? I will be in 4 classes at the local fair. 026 w/14" .325 chisel, 371 w/16" 3/8 chisel, 2100(Husky) w/18" 3/8 chisel, 090KD w/18" 3/8 square chisel. I have had almost no time to run these saws this summer, as I am building a 24 x 64 two-story garage. My collection of saws is fast taking over my present 30 x 64 two-story garage. Our rules are two hands on log, 10" or 12" poplar cant , saw running, stop watch starts on "GO", stops as saw clears third cut. First cut has to be down. Fortunately the small saws are first, during 10 minutes of practice I went from the 090 to the 371 and promptly bogged it down. The 090 can be pushed and pulled as hard as I can and it does not slow down!! Best time with 090, 6 seconds, 12" round poplar. I will be racing against a Homey 8800 that Mr Rupley built for a guy in my neighborhood, "NE Ohio". He will run it in the "run what you brung" class along with the 090. Old saws are my thing, so I will probably take my 1225-A Mac and a Mall 7-G just to demo.
So many saws, so little time. Larry

 

[chainsawworld]

what is the exact cubic inch displacements in each class and the cant size for each class(ie. 2.29-3.19 8x8 cant,3.2-4.19 10x10 cant etc.). marty

 

[chainsaw-57]

Hi Marty,
Usually have mostly Stihls entered and the class breaks with the 026, 046, 066 and open. All will saw the same 10x10 or 12x12. All my saws have the mufflers opened, depth gauges @.025 or .030. So many saws, so little time. Larry

 

[kdhotsaw]

larry steiners 090

hello larry,
great, glad your going to run the 090. just push hard . Is that time all three cuts? Are you using a 9 pin with your chain" Anyway good luck. enclosed a photo of your 090.
ken

 

[kdhotsaw]

no. 2

second photo

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Ken, Im jealous now of that 090 you built for Larry. Those were the last two 090's that entered North America from Germany. After selling more than 50 new ones in 2 years you would thought I might have hung onto one of them. Huh?
Are there any gains to be had with a motorsycle pipe? I noticed Art's unbeatable one has no pipe.
John

 

[kdhotsaw]

larry's 090

hello little leroi,
Yes, larry steiner(chainsaw57) got you on that deal. Bought the last 2 090's available in the northern hemisphere. then the next day stihl announced no more were. available. He should have been wearing a mask and a gun.
How was your first day back in the bush. You'll probably have to rest for a couple of days. your not getting any younger you know. ha. ha.
ken

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Ken, I took it really easy Monday and yesterday and got down 10 nice Rock Maples about 400 ft. each. Felled, toped, skidded and cut to length. I think I got a total of 6 hrs. into the bush in the last two days. Cant sleep, so I guess I will start at noon again tomorrow, however the days are long so what the hey.
I will smarten up some of the bigger trees with the 088 you built for me, but I better put the dogs back on it if I should use it with one hand. Plus this ole timer better loose this spare tire I'm carrying around if Im gonna pack that mo fo up them steep slopes.
I had a bit of down time today when I broke the mainline, I didnt have an axe to chop it or my cable cutter, so I just went home instead. I think the natives are getting restless, but I can tone them done without a problem.
Hey Doug, call me at 2pm. EST at 905 702 4262 on my cell and I will put the phone to the stump when the hingewood is crackin on one of those big Black Cherry trees.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

Sorry, I meant Monday and today. Yesterday was Monday in case anyone didnt know. lol
I should be out of the woods in 10 days which is 11 days after yesterday.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

Sorry, I contradicted myself, I was right the first time. Today is Wednesday, tomorrow is Thursday. That means I have two more days this week to play in the bush. Oh, wait a minute, its still Tuesday in Calif, but wednesday here, so I am brighter than I thought I was originaly.
Frank's Planks

 

[kdhotsaw]

little leroy's 088

hello john,
didn't say we would make the 088 lighter, just make it run a little better. robert saws your 088 was on tv making a cut with his predator on split screen tv. If you install a 9 pin sprocket on your 088 you'll probably be home by 2:00 o-clock tomarrow. oops, I mean today
kd

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Ken, I will try a 9 pin tomorrow and see if I get home as early as you say, but I think If I had a 6 pin I might get home the day before I leave for the woods.
P.s., Im a bit worried about Ginger, has anyone heard from her lately, or did Uncle Art talk her into letting him fall her trees?
John

 

[Dennis]

Noone better be touching my Ginger...

ken..you have remember that we are PST and if you include the GST we will be more than 14.5% ahead of time than Ont. which would make johnboy ready for work yesterday but not getting up till tomorrow....which is not unusual for a guy that has never been on time...

 

[chainsaw-57]

10 pin

Hi Ken,
The 090 is an animal and I am just getting used to it. I am using a 10 pin sprocket and slowly leaning it out. I don't have a tach, but the guy with the 8800 has and hopefully we can get together Saturday. I believe you said 10500 or 10800, is that in the cut or free revving. Not really much difference. The 6 seconds is all 3 cuts. She really throws the chips. Any advantage to taking the depth gauges a few thousands lower. It seems the saw could handle more, my 155# can only pull and push so hard. I am a machinist so I know what a difference a few thousands can make. I don't want to ruin the chain.
THANKS JOHN
THANKS KEN
Not a better couple of guys to be found.
"So many saws, @600, so little time." Larry

 

[kdhotsaw]

larry's 090

hi larry, sounds like you have it running pretty well. if you can push without pulling it down at all then you can take a couple thou off at a time and test.if you begain to drop you can go to a nine pin.I think your pretty close to optimum with a ten pin. anyway good luck and let us know how you do. its some big time fun.
ken

 

[Sethro]

Nelsonville,OH

Chainsaw 57
Hello, the Paul Bunyan show in Nelsonville on Oct.4,5 and 6th. Do you know what day the lumberjack show is and what hotsaw classes their having.thanks Seth

 

[chainsaw-57]

Paul Bunyan Show

Hi Seth,
I have been trying to go to that show for years, but something always comes up. A friend of mine always goes. I will check with him and post the times and classes if I can.
"So many saws, so little time." Larry

 

[kdhotsaw]

Chainsaw 57's 090

Hi Larry,
The only other thing I could tell you is on the 090 it has so much torque that when make the up cut on a three cut series it will back you right out of the log if you're not set and you might not get the round completely off . some of with 090's do that from time to time.
ken

 

[ccicora]

There are a few things to remember when racing modified saws.
1. make sure the saw is on
2. decompression vale ( Expecially if your running a KD Special!)
3. High idle kicked in.
4. Start the saw, prime as needed, warm saw till pipe gets a little warm
5. repeat 1-3
6. put your hands on the wood, take a deep breath
7. Listen for the countdown.......and GO!
8. Slap those hands down and start the saw (I half to start mine on the ground with my foot in the pistal grip area) (More compression )
9. run that saw through the cuts as smoth and as straight as possible and keep your right hip forward to ankor the saw.
10. DON'T forget to shut off the saw

My KD will do about 4.5 sec. from a dead start to 3 cuts in an 8x8. I think I have all the carb problems worked out for the fuel mix I'm using. I know I can break 4.0 with that saw.
Lets say that eventhough I have been working out the kinks in the saw, the big boys notice when you go sub 5's and had a bad cut. Next year the saw will be faster and so will I.
A Fast saw helps but here most of the race is between the ears.

Later,
Chris

 

[chainsawworld]

let's hear some numbers from this weekend. i am on the DAP list so i did not compete. one of my crew only got one third at sussex nj( a very differant show). honesdale pa. this thursday and i hope to be there in full force. marty
ps.sedanman, drop me an e-mail, gramsville is comming soon. hope to see you there.