Found Echo CS-60s now what....

[gmarblestone]

So in short i came across a Echo CS-60s that has not run in years. It came with a Homelite 150 as well, but i'll deal with that later.
It has 61.5cc which is better than my ms310 so i'm thinking about getting it up and running.

What should i do to get it running?

1. Drain gas and bar oil and replace with new...
2. Look at piston thru muffler to see if worth it...
3. Carb? (i'm scared of them... what should i do here?)
4. Filters?

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,

G

 

[Javelin]

Darn it you got those off of craigslist right?

 

[gmarblestone]

Yes.. thoughts?

Darn it you got those off of craigslist right?

 

[Saw Dr.]

I'd be surprised if you decide the CS-60 is an improvement over the MS-310. Engine size is marginally larger, and the Echo is a much older design. I suspect the 310 will make a bit more power and at a higher chain speed. That said, the Echo is a good old machine and should be fun to run once in a while. Pull the carb and muffler. Have a look at the piston, and turn it over to make sure it turns smooth. Now check for spark. If the engine looks OK, go through the carb and replace fuel lines if there is any question. Now add fuel and give 'er a go.

 

[gmarblestone]

Will do...
i figure i can play and give it to my dad or keep it around for ocassional use..

G

I'd be surprised if you decide the CS-60 is an improvement over the MS-310. Engine size is marginally larger, and the Echo is a much older design. I suspect the 310 will make a bit more power and at a higher chain speed. That said, the Echo is a good old machine and should be fun to run once in a while. Pull the carb and muffler. Have a look at the piston, and turn it over to make sure it turns smooth. Now check for spark. If the engine looks OK, go through the carb and replace fuel lines if there is any question. Now add fuel and give 'er a go.

 

[Javelin]

those old 60 echo saws were a low rpm but a tough bird. The also have a diffrent sound to them like all the saws of that era had.

 

[gmarblestone]

Well after i look at them ill see if its worth getting them running.
Having second thoughts!

G

 

[tbow388]

Best Bet

I think the best bet for that saw is to just send it to me...:yoyo:

(start with all you have mentioned) if it has sat a long time with gas you will probably need to do a carb kit. Also some oil in the jug might do some good before you start pulling on it.

 

[gmarblestone]

Anyway to clean the carb up without a kit?
I'm scared of carbs.. then again.. maybe this is a good time to learn!.

G

I think the best bet for that saw is to just send it to me...:yoyo:

(start with all you have mentioned) if it has sat a long time with gas you will probably need to do a carb kit. Also some oil in the jug might do some good before you start pulling on it.

 

[sawsalottawood]

FWIW, You can disassemble the carb and clean it without a kit sometimes. Other times the gaskets and diaphragms get torn. They are fragile and get brittle with age. Carb rebuild kits are inexpensive and a necessary rebuild step on many old saws. $10 or $15 dollars spent to rebuilt the carby will at least get your fuel situation squared away.....as long as your fuel hoses and filter are still good.

Regards,

SAWs

 

[DSS]

http://www.tillotson.ie/docs/techinfo_HS_US.pdf

Your saw should have a Tillotson HS carb. This should help. It's not really that hard, just intimidating the first time. Very few moving parts. Spray it out well with carb cleaner and make sure you have the diaphrams and gaskets in the right order.

Lots of help here if you get mixed up.

 

[Chris J.]

So in short i came across a Echo CS-60s that has not run in years. It came with a Homelite 150 as well, but i'll deal with that later.
It has 61.5cc which is better than my ms310 so i'm thinking about getting it up and running.

What should i do to get it running?

1. Drain gas and bar oil and replace with new...
2. Look at piston thru muffler to see if worth it...
3. Carb? (i'm scared of them... what should i do here?)
4. Filters?

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,

G

Darn it you got those off of craigslist right?

Yes.. thoughts?

That explains why Steve hasn't returned my calls.

 

[Bob Wright]

Send it to me and i will have 16 of them
The first thing i would check for is spark.
Then check the gas lines maybe the thing rattling around in the gas tank is just the filter not hooked to the line.
Need gas lines email me.
Then check the carb. Remove the 2 bolts 8mm wrench. Then remove the choke rod and the throttle rod as well as the rubber boot on the HL screws and gas line. Remove the cover to the carb and see if it looks ok underneath. Then reinstall. Then remove the other end of the carb which is the bottom or the diaphram end. Be carefull removing the gasket and diaphram. Then check the needle valve and make sure it isn't stuck in the hole. Just had a 60S last week that was. Check the little arm that the needle seat hooks to and see if its even from the top of the arm to the carb body casting. Then put it all back together, make sure the diaphram is hooked on the little arm. Put the 2 linkages back on and reinstall the carb and put gas in the tank. Turn the HL screws in until the just seat and back out 1 turn. The saw should start. Then the carb just needs adjusting. Man i love those CS-60S saws....Bob

 

[Bob Wright]

And we need pictures ...Bob

 

[tbow388]

And if none of this works. Do as I do and throw it in the fire pit!!!!!!

 

[Bob Wright]

I did my 3rd CS-60S in 3 weeks today and i did exactly as described and it runs sweet. I sprayed carb cleaner in all of the holes including removing the HL screws and spraying in them. When all back together the HL screws were turned gently in until they seat and both backed out 1 turn and the saw runs perfect. Its funny because all 3 60S saws that i just did run perfect with one turn out on the HL screws. Now to find some more trees...Bob

 

[gmarblestone]

Bob,

So i did as you said... I took of the very dirty air cleaner and followed your directions on the carb inspection. When i took off the top the gasket ripped so i am pretty sure i need a new one of those.. i tried to keep it as in tact as possible. The gas was rotten in there so i cleaned it out with good gas as best i could.

I filled her up and said what the heck.. and tried to start her up.. no dice... but this is much more complex than my stihl.

I assume on/off switch to on.
Choke closed and just give it some tugs? The other button i assume is the manual oiler?

The gas tank lines looked pretty good overall but i guess i should have tried to run some compressed air thru the hose connecting to the carb to clean all the bad gas back to the tank for draining.

Any other thoughts? I didnt use carb cleaner anywhere.


G

Send it to me and i will have 16 of them
The first thing i would check for is spark.
Then check the gas lines maybe the thing rattling around in the gas tank is just the filter not hooked to the line.
Need gas lines email me.
Then check the carb. Remove the 2 bolts 8mm wrench. Then remove the choke rod and the throttle rod as well as the rubber boot on the HL screws and gas line. Remove the cover to the carb and see if it looks ok underneath. Then reinstall. Then remove the other end of the carb which is the bottom or the diaphram end. Be carefull removing the gasket and diaphram. Then check the needle valve and make sure it isn't stuck in the hole. Just had a 60S last week that was. Check the little arm that the needle seat hooks to and see if its even from the top of the arm to the carb body casting. Then put it all back together, make sure the diaphram is hooked on the little arm. Put the 2 linkages back on and reinstall the carb and put gas in the tank. Turn the HL screws in until the just seat and back out 1 turn. The saw should start. Then the carb just needs adjusting. Man i love those CS-60S saws....Bob

 

[turtle561]

do like bob sez with carb.

don't assume the switch is in on position.pull the plug and verify spark. check switch position. if no spark either way un hook ground side of kill switch and check plug again. if still no spark check points and condenser.
also set throttle lock w/button on top of handle, w/choke out til it pops. then push choke in, hit it again. should be running like bob sez. if anybody knows these it's him. 16 and i haven't seen one in person yet ! geez!

 

[Bob Wright]

Does it have spark? If so dump a 1/2 teaspoon of gas down the plug hole and put the plug back in and see if it pops. If so everything is good on that end and it must be in the carb or lines. It takes about 10 pulls to get the fuel back thru the lines and thru the carb for the first pop....Bob

 

[Bob Wright]

Bob,

but this is much more complex than my stihl.

The other button i assume is the manual oiler?

Yes the manual oiler is the knob on the left of the handle. Your saw really isn't more complex it just looks that way with all of the oiler hoses and the oil pump in that compartment. Just take it one step at a time and you will figure it out. Don't look at the whole picture just do sections of it first...Bob