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big t double:
is the purpose of the doggie bone to reduce weight or does it somehow affect chip flow?

Moparmyway:
I see it as 3 fold.
1. Less weight
2. More room for wood to be pulled out from the cut
3. Lower drag profile for faster chain speed

It does help a little....but in our competitions we are not allowed to do anything to the chassis only the cutter itself..its a safety/strength thing

Has anyone gone so far as to try shaving the rivet heads and then "re-spin" the chain
in an effort to hide the sanding/filing marks?
Bearing in mind that a quick check with calipers would reveal any substantial metal removal.

As for the weight reduction thing I wandered about also dimpling out the central region of the of the side plates.
How about taking an oregon style chain with the stamped dimple side plates,
Lub-link or whichever name used and then dressing the outer face flat?

This brings back hearing rumors of a few of the antic of the flathead 5hp briggs, cart racers.
supposedly cutting two cranks and re-assembling into one, just to get a point lobe
indexed a bit early (simply welding and re-grinding was too easy to spot).
Never personally saw any, So I don't know how successful of a job could have been done.
I always wondered if a fellow could burnish in that joint to make it harder to see
and I figure it would take someone like a pretty slick gunsmith to try making that union.and get the indexing correct.
this was nearly 30 years ago without all the computerized machining we now have.

Carefully shaving out a bit of weight from a flywheel (think like a port job) and then a mild caustic rinse, to hide the work.
Re-ginding cam shafts to a slightly smaller base circle then knock a bit off the lobe
top and contour the whole thing in for a bit more duration yet showing no increased lift
if a tech just pulls the head and only checks valve lift.
Of course there was also talk of doped oils.
 
big t double:
is the purpose of the doggie bone to reduce weight or does it somehow affect chip flow?

Moparmyway:
I see it as 3 fold.
1. Less weight
2. More room for wood to be pulled out from the cut
3. Lower drag profile for faster chain speed



Has anyone gone so far as to try shaving the rivet heads and then "re-spin" the chain
in an effort to hide the sanding/filing marks?
Bearing in mind that a quick check with calipers would reveal any substantial metal removal.

As for the weight reduction thing I wandered about also dimpling out the central region of the of the side plates.
How about taking an oregon style chain with the stamped dimple side plates,
Lub-link or whichever name used and then dressing the outer face flat?

This brings back hearing rumors of a few of the antic of the flathead 5hp briggs, cart racers.
supposedly cutting two cranks and re-assembling into one, just to get a point lobe
indexed a bit early (simply welding and re-grinding was too easy to spot).
Never personally saw any, So I don't know how successful of a job could have been done.
I always wondered if a fellow could burnish in that joint to make it harder to see
and I figure it would take someone like a pretty slick gunsmith to try making that union.and get the indexing correct.
this was nearly 30 years ago without all the computerized machining we now have.

Carefully shaving out a bit of weight from a flywheel (think like a port job) and then a mild caustic rinse, to hide the work.
Re-ginding cam shafts to a slightly smaller base circle then knock a bit off the lobe
top and contour the whole thing in for a bit more duration yet showing no increased lift
if a tech just pulls the head and only checks valve lift.
Of course there was also talk of doped oils.
I raced Briggs limited/mods for ten years...always built my own engines...you have no idea the crap I heard about people trying diff things to get past tech
 
Claimer rules is always a good equalizer if you know what I mean. Cheating always sucks but on the dirt track in supposed Street Stock which was once bombers, at one time no judges looked you over unless somebody called you into the tower. My next door neighbor only other guy on my road was running a '74 Camaro with a 360 Dodge/tranny and a 9" Ford axle for years with four barrel in a restrictor/2 barrel division. . Yup stock car ok. Just don't get under it and see the 3/4 ton truck spring on the passenger front or measure the two inches of tread width that we ground off cause I gaurantee you you old boys are cheating too.
 
big t double:
is the purpose of the doggie bone to reduce weight or does it somehow affect chip flow?

Moparmyway:
I see it as 3 fold.
1. Less weight
2. More room for wood to be pulled out from the cut
3. Lower drag profile for faster chain speed



Has anyone gone so far as to try shaving the rivet heads and then "re-spin" the chain
in an effort to hide the sanding/filing marks?
Bearing in mind that a quick check with calipers would reveal any substantial metal removal.

As for the weight reduction thing I wandered about also dimpling out the central region of the of the side plates.
How about taking an oregon style chain with the stamped dimple side plates,
Lub-link or whichever name used and then dressing the outer face flat?

This brings back hearing rumors of a few of the antic of the flathead 5hp briggs, cart racers.
supposedly cutting two cranks and re-assembling into one, just to get a point lobe
indexed a bit early (simply welding and re-grinding was too easy to spot).
Never personally saw any, So I don't know how successful of a job could have been done.
I always wondered if a fellow could burnish in that joint to make it harder to see
and I figure it would take someone like a pretty slick gunsmith to try making that union.and get the indexing correct.
this was nearly 30 years ago without all the computerized machining we now have.

Carefully shaving out a bit of weight from a flywheel (think like a port job) and then a mild caustic rinse, to hide the work.
Re-ginding cam shafts to a slightly smaller base circle then knock a bit off the lobe
top and contour the whole thing in for a bit more duration yet showing no increased lift
if a tech just pulls the head and only checks valve lift.
Of course there was also talk of doped oils.
That's the nice thing about this chain race...
Ain't no rules...
 
Update:
TRX250's chain / Here
My chain / hanging on a nail :laugh:
Mdavlee's chain / en'route
Cobey's chain / bring with
Sunfish's chain / bring with
Weekendlmbrjack's chain / bring with
Squarefile /
Jasha /
moparmyway /
Watsonr /
anyone else want in on this party??
 
I am still deciding if I need to spin in a couple of new cutters ............................ might not be enough tooth left on 1 or 2 cutters
 
I'll bring mine along, or maybe send it home with ya on Saturday if you make it out here.
Gotcha!
Is the track gonna be muddy Saturday?:eek:

Update:
TRX250's chain / Here
My chain / hanging on a nail :laugh:
Mdavlee's chain / en'route
Cobey's chain / bring with
Sunfish's chain / bring with
Weekendlmbrjack's chain / bring with
Awol's chain / bring with
Squarefile /
Jasha /
moparmyway / sending soon :)
Watsonr /
anyone else want in on this party??
 

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