Get Ready, higher ebay fees coming!

[ScottWojo]

GreedBay is doing this to encourage sellers to offer free shipping. The few times that I've tried free shipping, I lost money. I was selling identical items with the exact same auction setup, the only difference was one had free shipping and the other didn't. The one that had free shipping got more at auction, but not enough to compensate for my shipping cost.

I was offering free shipping consistently on chainsaws. Always free shipping on small items.

The savvy buyer could see that I was selling an item at the same price as the competition, and they were going to save the shipping if the other guy was charging. This would allow me to build capitol faster.

I can see their point on this. You sell a chainsaw and want to save a little on fees...charge a higher shipping rate. Well, at least that's how it used to be.

Sometimes you would get a nut job who buys a $500 dollar saw for $250 and then he goes nuts if you made a little on top of the actual shipping cost.

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Fees are taken out once a month for eBay. But when you receive money from a buyer, the paypal fees are taken as it is put into your paypal account.

So if I don't sell anything then ebay will take money out of my paypal for no reason if I open a paypal account? If I did sell something then they would'nt take any out of the account?

 

[a. palmer jr.]

So when you sell on ebay and get paid through paypal, is ebays fee already taken out before you get your payment deposited in paypal or do you still owe ebay money for their fee?

You pay ebay fees monthly, so you still owe. Ebay sends a notice once a month and you have a choice of paying it then or ebay will jerk it out of your paypal account. If you take your money out of paypal first they will remove it from your credit or debit card. If you discontinue your debit account after you take your money from paypal then they send someone out to break your legs. Just kiddin' about the last part.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

So if I don't sell anything then ebay will take money out of my paypal for no reason if I open a paypal account? If I did sell something then they would'nt take any out of the account?

If you don't sell anything on ebay you don't owe them anything. You can find out what you owe by going to "My Ebay" at the top of page and then clicking "Account". That will tell you if you owe anything. You don't pay anything to ebay until you sell an item. After you sell they'll send you a statement saying what you owe. After you pay that you don't owe them anything unless you sell again. Paypal takes their fees the moment money is deposited and again if you request a check.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

In a nutshell, if you had a saw for sale on ebay that you used to charge $50 for and asked $20 for shipping, now you would start the bidding at $70 with free shipping. For some reason it seems harder to sell a $50 chainsaw for $70 even if the total price equals out the same. Ebay will still get about around $2 more fees on this particular sale than on the old rates. The further you have to ship it the more you will lose on the deal. If you're selling heavy saws and ship them across the country it's probably a no-win situation for you.

 

[CentaurG2]

Sound to me like ebay is trying to put a crimp on excessive shipping fees which is a big gripe with a lot of buyers. Some sellers charge outrageous amounts to ship stuff citing cost of packing materials and handling. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Chris J.]

Sound to me like ebay is trying to put a crimp on excessive shipping fees which is a big gripe with a lot of buyers. Some sellers charge outrageous amounts to ship stuff citing cost of packing materials and handling. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Yes, I've seen this many times when I browsed eBay on a regular basis. It doesn't take long to see that many sellers undercutting competitor's BIN prices make up for with their shipping costs. Some sellers go way overboard on shipping mark-ups. It's also a good way to discourage people from returning items when losing the original shipping cost doesn't make returning the item worth it (that said, many say that eBay is now tougher on making seller offer full refunds on misrepresented items).

 

[RandyMac]

Me thinks the "Republic of California" is to blame. They has something special in the water :hmm3grin2orange:

Ill just up the reserve 5-40 for my shipping and people can deal, if they want it they will buy it.

I think, that you don't think.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

Sound to me like ebay is trying to put a crimp on excessive shipping fees which is a big gripe with a lot of buyers. Some sellers charge outrageous amounts to ship stuff citing cost of packing materials and handling. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Just remember though, you always have a choice to not buy. I don't see why they make such a big deal about shipping...if the price or the shipping is too high, keep looking, eventually you'll find the price you want on there, but it doesn't make sense to complain about high anything as long as nobody's forcing you to buy it.

 

[rupedoggy]

In the past Ebay said I was charging to much for shipping on some items. If they now get a portion of the shipping fee they should say nothing, right?

 

[a. palmer jr.]

In the past Ebay said I was charging to much for shipping on some items. If they now get a portion of the shipping fee they should say nothing, right?

Probably. I found out by experience that sometimes it's how you word your ad that leads to them calling you out for shipping prices. I had three items, just alike, and I was dinged on one of them for high shipping. It turned out I had titled it slightly different from the other two. I've never had a problem since. If you charge less than $25 or $30 for shipping on a saw you'll probably be all right.

 

[ScottWojo]

Probably. I found out by experience that sometimes it's how you word your ad that leads to them calling you out for shipping prices.

I think also sometimes you have a buyer...or seller reporting you to eBay.

 

[a. palmer jr.]

I think also sometimes you have a buyer...or seller reporting you to eBay.

Not on the one I'm talking about..As I was writing my listing, when I clicked on the thing to finalize the listing, I got a pop-up saying that my postage was higher than most of the same item. I think I was listing under the header of "chainsaw parts" rather than "chainsaw". No buyer saw the ad at that time.
I think there are buyers than gripe about the shipping prices, but as far as I'm concerned they can buy from someone else. I'm not twisting anybody's arm to buy anything.

 

[SawGarage]

WOW :msp_rolleyes: I just read some of the town-hall BS..

UNBELIEVABLE!! :angry2:

Ebay answered people's questions/concerns with "have you tried including the shipping into the item??

and we didn't think of that...

free shipping is what buyers expect... (NOT ME!! i know shipping isn't free! and those that offer free shipping, aren't AUCTIONING something...it's usually a BIN!


someone commented:
Griff gets his business skills from Nancy Pelosi. "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it".

:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:



SO...

what do we all think ???


J

 

[a. palmer jr.]

It generally costs in the neighborhood of $20 to ship a chainsaw within the US. I think ebay wants their buyers to eat that amount on each sale. I'll continue selling the way I've always done and if ebay cancels my account I'll try something else. I don't sell all the time anyway, just occasionally.

 

[SawGarage]

It generally costs in the neighborhood of $20 to ship a chainsaw within the US. I think ebay wants their buyers to eat that amount on each sale. I'll continue selling the way I've always done and if ebay cancels my account I'll try something else. I don't sell all the time anyway, just occasionally.

From INDY, sure..i'm 40 miles from the eastern seaboard.. it costs me $26 to ship a 044 with 20" bar to Oregon, and THAT was Parcel post... to ship any other way would have been close to $40...

Either way, I agree with you, i'll keep doing the same-old, although RANDOMLY selling only..

J

 

[thomas72]

I might start trying out sawbid, even though less money will be made. If the site can get enough desirable goods on it then more people will be drawn to it. Might as well start some time. Ebay use to be a good auctioning site now it is just okay. As for shipping I always added about $10.00 to my shipping cost to cover other expenses.

 

[GA_Boy]

Double dipping, paypal gets a fee for both the sale and the shipping so it's only fair that ebay does to...........Oh wait a minute ebay owns paypal so I guess it's quadruple dipping.

Exxxxactly, a lot of people, including me until about 2 months ago, don't know this.

I sold a good 460 on ebay back in Feb. for 550.00 + 26.45 shipping. Ebay took $38.05, paypal took 17.02 and shipping was actually 29.62. I think i wound up losing about 30 bucks on that saw.

 

[SawGarage]

Exxxxactly, a lot of people, including me until about 2 months ago, don't know this.

I sold a good 460 on ebay back in Feb. for 550.00 + 26.45 shipping. Ebay took $38.05, paypal took 17.02 and shipping was actually 29.62. I think i wound up losing about 30 bucks on that saw.

They MAY bring DECENT prices on ebay, BUT after factoring the cost of doing business on there, and the fact that you have to ship, and POTENTIALLY get a good returned AT YOUR EXPENSE, and STILL EAT the fees from the previous auction...I'd consider losing 10% (MORE) and selling it locally... just my $.02...



J

 

[banshee67]

im surprised no one has blamed this man yet