got about 50 trees not sure what they are

[NDtreehugger]

not a big deal we will be cutting them after they are all pushed over and in a pile, any idea what they are there about 30 foot tall and 14-15" at the trunk

 

[toddstreeservic]

locust :chainsawguy:

 

[ray benson]

Looks like Locust leaves.
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...ust+leaves&start=300&gbv=2&ndsp=20&hl=en&sa=N

 

[danrclem]

I'm guessing black locust. If it is it's supposed to be real good wood. I hope so because I just got some cut and split.

Danny

 

[KsWoodsMan]

not a big deal we will be cutting them after they are all pushed over and in a pile, any idea what they are there about 30 foot tall and 14-15" at the trunk

Looks like locust here too. Was my first thought anyway. Not Ash, too rounded.
What're the thorns like? Bristles? 1/2" to 1" long? 2 to 4 or 6" ?
That would be a sure giveaway that it is locust.
Black locust has bark similar to most Elms here. With shorter thorns. Honey locust has an altogether different thinner bark which is charcoal to nearly black and looks like it was peeled sideways off the tree in small 'tabs' that healed back.

Either makes excellent firewood. Let it season extra long, it is dense, tough wood.

 

[NDtreehugger]

I was just told to start thinking European mountainash

:chainsawguy:

 

[tree_beard]

i was just told to start thinking european mountain ash

you could think mountain ash... but all the thinking in the world wont make those leaves look like the mountain ash we get here in europe.... or any other ash i can think of...



i'd go with the black locust votes

 

[ray benson]

The mountain ash leaves look close but they have more leaflets than that. Around here the mountain ash doesn't get that big(14-15" DBH).

 

[turnkey4099]

The mountain ash leaves look close but they have more leaflets than that. Around here the mountain ash doesn't get that big(14-15" DBH).

I have one that has been growing since I bought this place 31 years ago. It was a 'big' tree then at about 6". It is now 10" (jusst measured it). I cut a co-dominant stem off of it 30 years ago. Some of the densest, heaviest wood I ever cut and that includes black locust.

Harry K

 

[danrclem]

not a big deal we will be cutting them after they are all pushed over and in a pile, any idea what they are there about 30 foot tall and 14-15" at the trunk

Does the bark look like this?

Danny

 

[Rocosil]

:chainsawguy:

Mountain ash would grow white flowers and orange-red berries. Leaves are narrower and pointy. This is locust - smells like green beans.

Bob

 

[Wood Doctor]

There are several varieties of locust, but they all have one thing in common--high density. If the wood you have found is about as heavy as oak or heavier, it's probably locust, the only common wood I know that has that property. However, it's tougher to split than oak. When the tree grows, the branches take off almost every direction you can imagine, so the wood has to be strong to support them. The tree is also a bear to prune.

Locust makes good firewood, but you have to let it dry for about a year. Like oak, it burns slowly and hot. I like to mix it with maple and elm in the same fire. The softer woods keep it glowing like coal.

One thing about locust that amazes me. The tree grows very fast, and thus the annular rings are far apart. Regardless, the wood is as dense as red or white oak, and the heartwood may actually be denser. Nobody has been able to explain this to me. Perhaps TreeCo could...

 

[2FatGuys]

....One thing about locust that amazes me. The tree grows very fast, and thus the annular rings are far apart. Regardless, the wood is as dense as red or white oak, and the heartwood may actually be denser. Nobody has been able to explain this to me. Perhaps TreeCo could...

I've wondered the same thing. We have had a strange dieback among locust in the northwest mountains of NC recently. I haven't figured it out. It seems that anywhere that the locust extends above the rest of the canopy in a wooded area, the tree starts to die. There are some huge "groves" of locust on our property that are standing dead now. I cut 15-20 locusts this past weekend and didn't make a dent.

 

[scotclayshooter]

you could think mountain ash... but all the thinking in the world wont make those leaves look like the mountain ash we get here in europe.... or any other ash i can think of...



i'd go with the black locust votes

+1 it sure aint mountain ash
Now has any one seen Oak leaf mountain ash otherwise known as bast*rd service tree (real name!!!!!) its a Rowan cross Whitebeam we have some here and they are a real nice tree for the city and it took me over 6 months to find out what they were!!!

 

[Zodiac45]

I've wondered the same thing. We have had a strange dieback among locust in the northwest mountains of NC recently. I haven't figured it out. It seems that anywhere that the locust extends above the rest of the canopy in a wooded area, the tree starts to die. There are some huge "groves" of locust on our property that are standing dead now. I cut 15-20 locusts this past weekend and didn't make a dent.

Borers are a serious problem with Black locust trees. They grow great guns for several year and all the sudden start to slow then die. If not for these insects you'd see allot more locust wood in use commercially. That said it's just about one of the best firewoods in exsistence. Can hardly tell it's burning low and slow. Sure wish I had some up here!

 

[KsWoodsMan]

not a big deal we will be cutting them after they are all pushed over and in a pile, any idea what they are there about 30 foot tall and 14-15" at the trunk

I wasn't sure if this one was ever determined correctly. There was never any mention of thorns or bristles which might eliminate most Locust's.

I did find this link http://www.hort.uconn.edu/Plants/c/cararb/cararb1.html to Siberian PeaShrub or Caragana. The leaves look very close by the picture below. There are several species and were brought here by some of the same immagrants that brought us Hardy Red Wheat.

Edit : Ooops missed this from the link I provided !

"stipules persist and sometimes are nearly thorn-like."

 

[sredlin]

might be a kentucky coffee tree