Guys, don't get complacent out there!!!

[sawinredneck]

I actually had never heard of a bore cut until I got on this site. I had always cut a "triangle" into the holding wood (with the apex pointing at the start of the backcut) and chased leaners. Gives you less wood to get through (and therefore a faster cut) where the risk of barberchairing is the greatest.

This tree was actually the first time i used a bore cut. The distance from the stump to where the second piece stuck itself into the ground gives a better idea of the lean than the perspective offers. I cut a big open face on that one.

This is called the "golden triangle" or "coo's bay" cut, very effective on heavy head leaners!

 

[edisto]

if they are leaning this hard and think they are gonna barber chair a small relief cut on each side of the face cut will help prevent the barber chair also ,the alder and maple around here are real bad about that

That's solid advice! A little nip on the sides is a part of the triangle.

This is called the "golden triangle" or "coo's bay" cut, very effective on heavy head leaners!

I knew it had to be called something!

Don't know if it was the "when" or "where" I was when I got introduced to falling, but it seems they were more concerned about kickback with inexperienced folks than they were barberchairs, because they never talked about bore cutting.

Sounds like this "Game of Logging" has the opposite view. I had to look it up...seems like "game" is a poor choice of words...

 

[madhatte]

seems like "game" is a poor choice of words...

Always thought the same. It's a pretty lousy game that wants to kill you.

 

[MotorSeven]

Helmet came in today. It's stamped China, but I have to say it is well done and very comfortable. No chin strap(pun intended), but it does have a neck strap.

 

[forestryworks]

Helmet came in today. It's stamped China, but I have to say it is well done and very comfortable. No chin strap(pun intended), but it does have a neck strap.

The hell you need a chin strap for? Gonna guard the Queen of England? :hmm3grin2orange:

Those skull bucket suspensions aren't very comfortable. A tip: the Mac-T Stayz on suspensions fit that hardhat and are much more comfortable.

 

[blsnelling]

So, what are these Mac-Ts I keep seeing mention of? Are they still available? I searched and came up empty.

 

[blsnelling]

Helmet came in today. It's stamped China, but I have to say it is well done and very comfortable. No chin strap(pun intended), but it does have a neck strap.

Did that come from Baileys?

 

[MotorSeven]

Try McDonald T's, they are antiques, no longer made, but USA made. Ebay has them from $30 on up.

FW, the chin strap thing was Brad's requirement for those rock climbing looking helmets he is trying to do a group buy on.

Fleabay search:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mcdonald+t+hard+hat&_frs=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m359

 

[pdqdl]

Helmet came in today. It's stamped China, but I have to say it is well done and very comfortable. No chin strap(pun intended), but it does have a neck strap.

That is only a 4 point susupension. I prefer a 6 point suspension. They are both stronger, safer, & (IMHO) more comfortable.

Not being critical; just stating my preferences.

 

[MotorSeven]

Did that come from Baileys?

No, Bailey's wanted a little more than I was willing to pay.

I got it here, and if you call them and send it to a business addy, the freight is about $4 cheaper. Mine was just a little over $40 shipped:

https://www.hivispricesaver.com/ind..._id=79&zenid=32e111076d5412d62bfabe49b3341e0e

They also come in Stihl orange for the same price.

 

[MotorSeven]

That is only a 4 point susupension. I prefer a 6 point suspension. They are both stronger, safer, & (IMHO) more comfortable.

Not being critical; just stating my preferences.

Correct, but when I was fishing around the replacement 4 points seemed to be easier to find(Baileys $10)

 

[Eric106]

Never mind, a lot of posts can be added while you're typing.

-Eric

 

[Gologit]

So, what are these Mac-Ts I keep seeing mention of? Are they still available? I searched and came up empty.

The Mac-T isn't made anymore. Most loggers regret that, they were a fine hat. The Skull Bucket, and the cheap imitation of the Skull Bucket look a lot like the Mac-T.

 

[MotorSeven]

Guys, I am not a pro, just a guy with a hundred ac that heats with wood. I try and learn as much as I can here. I know this, my plastic Stihl helmet w/ear protection sucks. It pinches/pulls my hair all the time, the slots for face shield cracked on both sides(I have no idea how it happened), and the ear muffs are too dang hot most of the year. So, I have been leaving the dang thing on the 'wheeler instead of wearing it. Brad's thread reminded me that I was being negligent in favor of comfort, so I am going to give this aluminium bucket a try, but I can say right off the bat, it is way more comfortable which means I might actually wear it when cutting:msp_thumbup:

Is it ok to say I even like the "retro look"?........man I'm gettin old................

 

[blsnelling]

I was laying in bed, and it donned on me...I have one of those aluminum helmets, lol! One of you guys gave it to me a good while back. I'm guessing that this is a Mac-T? It's marked B. F. McDonald Co. It's just been setting on a shelf in the garage for a couple years. The suspension was totally rotted out, so I removed all that. Anyone know where I can buy replacement suspension?

 

[forestryworks]

As previously mentioned on this site, eBay and garage sales will be your best bets for Mac-T hard hats.

Brad, you have the 6pt. hat. No suspensions available for them, unless you can find the old leather ones on eBay. I never cared for the old 6pt. though, didn't fit my head. Keep that hat though, good shop piece.

4pt. Mac-T hats pop up on eBay now and again. I've scored two. And Madsen's and Bailey's sell the Mac-T Stayz on suspensions for the 4pt. hats.

 

[forestryworks]

No, Bailey's wanted a little more than I was willing to pay.

I got it here, and if you call them and send it to a business addy, the freight is about $4 cheaper. Mine was just a little over $40 shipped:

https://www.hivispricesaver.com/ind..._id=79&zenid=32e111076d5412d62bfabe49b3341e0e

They also come in Stihl orange for the same price.

That looks like the Skull Bucket hats re-badged as Forester brand.

 

[blsnelling]

Brad, you have the 6pt. hat. No suspensions available for them, unless you can find the old leather ones on eBay. I never cared for the old 6pt. though, didn't fit my head. Keep that hat though, good shop piece.

Bummer. It'd be cool to breathe life back into this oldie.

 

[Gologit]

Bummer. It'd be cool to breathe life back into this oldie.

Ask SlowP. I sent her an old 6 point Mac and she was going to try to make a suspension for it.

 

[2dogs]

That looks like the Skull Bucket hats re-badged as Forester brand.

No that is a Red Chinese knock off and part of the reason Skull Bucket hasn't made hats lately. Bailey's and other companies don't really come clean in their ads that this is a replica of a Skull Bucket. I bought a Skull Bucket from Cowlitz when they first came out but I ended sell the hat to my boss because it just was not comfortable for me. I have two Mac-Ts, a cap which I bought new and a hat from ebay. I really prefer the Bullard wildland hat for most uses but they do need to be replaced every few years.