HUSKYMAN
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So when is the 3120 v. 088 going down?
I bet all the drug stores in NH are out of alka seltzer plus by now
I bet all the drug stores in NH are out of alka seltzer plus by now
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StIhL MaGnUm
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IT's almost beer:30
the empties are gonna start rollin'
Later Rob..
the empties are gonna start rollin'Later Rob..
Sethro
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Laterrod
Your about 4 1/2 hours late!
ps: don't let your meat loaf
Your about 4 1/2 hours late!
ps: don't let your meat loaf
StIhL MaGnUm
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That's what I was thinking as well
Later Rob...
Later Rob...
dbabcock
Hi Tech Redneck
Back to the real world
I'm back on the block here at the office. Dropped Robert off at the airport this morning at 8:30 for his flight back to Washington. John followed me down into Mass in his truck, then headed down 495 toward the Mass Pike on his way back to Toronto. It's certainly quite the turnaround going from last week to this week.
The boys certainly can put down a few beers. I figure that between the 3 of us, we went through over 15 cases since Tuesday night. They never got more than 4 hours of sleep any night that they were here. I found that I could keep pace with them for a day or two, but no longer than that. Continuous libation for 20 hours each day from Tueday night till Sunday night. I've never seen anything like it.
I met up with Robert in Washington, DC at the airport there on Tuesday night on my way back from South Carolina, then we flew up to Manchester, New Hampshire together. By the time we got to the house, John was already there and beveraged to the gills. As it turned out, Jane had gone to a downtown restaurant for lunch that day and as she came out of the place and was walking up the street, there's John just walking around taking in the sights. What are the chances of that happening in a city with a population of 100,000? I'm not kidding here.
Anyway, Jane got out of work later and met John at the Ground Round. After he followed her back to the house, she fed him champagne, assorted liqueurs and capped things off with shots of tequila. He was beyond hammered by the time we walked in the door at 11:30 PM that night.
We timed the saws with a stopwatch and videotaped each cut, which I'll go over later this week. John and I both ran all the saws, but it became really clear early on that Robert's abilities made him much faster than John and therefore easily faster than myself. As an example of this; with John's 2171 G running a 7 pin, 18" bar through a 14" pine log, I'd cut a 4.5, John would do a 4.1 and Robert pulled a 3.8.
When it came to the featured event, we had Robert run both the 3120 KD and the 088 KD. The first day, I had an 8 pin, 16", Art Martin and modded muffler on the 3120, and John's 088 was running a 9 pin, 21", Ken Dunn. We may have banged the rev limiter on the 3120 in the cut with it's combination. With a stock 1999 coil, we had it at 11,500 RPM or so before it limited. This makes carb adjustment tricky as the only way to get it right is to do a loaded cut, then adjust accordingly. In contrast, the unlimited 088 runs right to 15,000 unloaded. Under these conditions, both saws ran almost identical times through the above log; namely in the 1.78 to 1.95 second range. Although the 3120 may have had the best time of the bunch at 1.78 seconds, the 088 may have had the better average. I say "may", because this is by stopwatch. The frame-by-frame video will tell the true story, if any different. Robert's cuts with each saw were remarkably consistant, successive cuts sometimes being within .02 seconds of each other.
Yesterday, while John was passed out in my tent, Robert ran a bunch of cuts through a slightly larger 16" log with the 088, then we switched it's 9 pin, bar and chain over to my 3120 (with a KD supplied bar adapter). Again, the same outcome. Robert was getting more used to the saws and his times were again consistant. Both saws were running right about 2.0 to 2.2 seconds on the stopwatch. I don't remember which saw had the best time, but my feeling is that the 088 may have had a better average. If it did or didn't, they were so close as to be virtually dead even statistically, when one considers any variances that Robert or the log present. Of course, both saws would have probably run better still with some expert adjustments from Ken himself and perhaps a little more breakin on the 3120 (2-3 tanks of fuel have been through it).
No excuses here; until I look at the video it's really too close to call. Even after I examine the video, it's going to be real close. In the real world of saw racing, it would probably go either way depending on the day. More later.
I'm back on the block here at the office. Dropped Robert off at the airport this morning at 8:30 for his flight back to Washington. John followed me down into Mass in his truck, then headed down 495 toward the Mass Pike on his way back to Toronto. It's certainly quite the turnaround going from last week to this week.
The boys certainly can put down a few beers. I figure that between the 3 of us, we went through over 15 cases since Tuesday night. They never got more than 4 hours of sleep any night that they were here. I found that I could keep pace with them for a day or two, but no longer than that. Continuous libation for 20 hours each day from Tueday night till Sunday night. I've never seen anything like it.
I met up with Robert in Washington, DC at the airport there on Tuesday night on my way back from South Carolina, then we flew up to Manchester, New Hampshire together. By the time we got to the house, John was already there and beveraged to the gills. As it turned out, Jane had gone to a downtown restaurant for lunch that day and as she came out of the place and was walking up the street, there's John just walking around taking in the sights. What are the chances of that happening in a city with a population of 100,000? I'm not kidding here.
Anyway, Jane got out of work later and met John at the Ground Round. After he followed her back to the house, she fed him champagne, assorted liqueurs and capped things off with shots of tequila. He was beyond hammered by the time we walked in the door at 11:30 PM that night.
We timed the saws with a stopwatch and videotaped each cut, which I'll go over later this week. John and I both ran all the saws, but it became really clear early on that Robert's abilities made him much faster than John and therefore easily faster than myself. As an example of this; with John's 2171 G running a 7 pin, 18" bar through a 14" pine log, I'd cut a 4.5, John would do a 4.1 and Robert pulled a 3.8.
When it came to the featured event, we had Robert run both the 3120 KD and the 088 KD. The first day, I had an 8 pin, 16", Art Martin and modded muffler on the 3120, and John's 088 was running a 9 pin, 21", Ken Dunn. We may have banged the rev limiter on the 3120 in the cut with it's combination. With a stock 1999 coil, we had it at 11,500 RPM or so before it limited. This makes carb adjustment tricky as the only way to get it right is to do a loaded cut, then adjust accordingly. In contrast, the unlimited 088 runs right to 15,000 unloaded. Under these conditions, both saws ran almost identical times through the above log; namely in the 1.78 to 1.95 second range. Although the 3120 may have had the best time of the bunch at 1.78 seconds, the 088 may have had the better average. I say "may", because this is by stopwatch. The frame-by-frame video will tell the true story, if any different. Robert's cuts with each saw were remarkably consistant, successive cuts sometimes being within .02 seconds of each other.
Yesterday, while John was passed out in my tent, Robert ran a bunch of cuts through a slightly larger 16" log with the 088, then we switched it's 9 pin, bar and chain over to my 3120 (with a KD supplied bar adapter). Again, the same outcome. Robert was getting more used to the saws and his times were again consistant. Both saws were running right about 2.0 to 2.2 seconds on the stopwatch. I don't remember which saw had the best time, but my feeling is that the 088 may have had a better average. If it did or didn't, they were so close as to be virtually dead even statistically, when one considers any variances that Robert or the log present. Of course, both saws would have probably run better still with some expert adjustments from Ken himself and perhaps a little more breakin on the 3120 (2-3 tanks of fuel have been through it).
No excuses here; until I look at the video it's really too close to call. Even after I examine the video, it's going to be real close. In the real world of saw racing, it would probably go either way depending on the day. More later.
