hall model 7 two man saw

[056kid]

I was wondering around the old mill in my town last weekend when i stumbled upon 2 Hall model 7 two man saws. Both looked to be in ok condition,they where inside. One saw had a bar of about 50 inches with a stinger on the end. I looked on the old saw site and found nothing. Has anybody herd of or run one of these beasts. And the displacement. Thanks

 

[Lawn Masters]

Its not a Hall, but a Mall. very nice I would think for milling.

 

[Mange]

My guess would be they had them to cut ends with, after they stopped using them in the woods.
Several off the 2-man saws here was bought for this purpose.

 

[Al Smith]

Trust me!

You are wasting your time,if you try to mill with that big old monster.That is something over 12 cu in.Oh,it will cut,if you can get it started,which is a feat in itself. They are neat to see at old tractor shows,but not much fun to run,but that's just my opinion,and others ,perhaps feel different.

 

[Mange]

Milling is to much work with these i think. cutting ends is about what i think they wood be good fore.

 

[chainsaw-57]

Starting and Milling

I don't post often, but this topic is one that I have experience with.

Milling is out of the question if you are using the original "scratcher chain".
The set, of the teeth on the chain, is such that a sliver of wood is left in
the center of the kurf. This is not a problem when cross-cutting, as it
chips out as you cut. When ripping, you are only able to cut about 3/8"
before the center of the chain is "riding" on this sliver of wood.

As for starting, I kick start mine. Other AS members have witnessed this
and if they wish to add to that statemant that would be fine.

So many saws, so little time. Larry

I do Fairs, Tractor and Old Engine Shows and exhibition cutting.

 

[sedanman]

Larry, Very good see you about! YES!, I have seen the kick-start trick with my own eyes, very impressive indeed!

 

[sedanman]

P.S. Larry, There have been a few topics lately where your knowlwdge would have been helpful, still a thread on electric start chainsaws.

 

[underwor]

Larry, How does the kick starting trick you mention work. Is it an attachment you add or what? Thanks, Bob

 

[chainsaw-57]

Kick Start Mall

Some of the two-man Malls had a recoil starter and others came with an exposed flywheel. The exposed flywheel models were rope start. There are two notches in the flywheel, that hold the knot in a rope. The notches are positioned on the flywheel so that they are at 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock when the engine is just before top dead center. The notches are big enough that you can catch them with the toe of your shoe. If you have a good running, and easy starting, saw you can kick (push) the 1 o'clock notch in a clockwise direction and the engine will come to life. You must remember to pull your toe away from the flywheel when you kick it or it will try to get you!!

This method is described in better detail in the Mall manuals.

Spectators really enjoy the "kick" start method. I use this procedure most of the time.

However, on cold damp mornings, nothing works quite like a rope to get things going. The rope I use is a modified Elasto-Start from an MS 660. If you think our modern chainsaws can kick back, try a 12 plus cubic inch model from the Forties. It will bring tears to your eyes and a numb hand and arm for the rest of the day. Of course there is always a crowd around when this happens.

So many saws, so little time. Larry

 

[Lawn Masters]

Sounds scary. I just pray my Stihl never kicks back. I have enough trouble with the compression on that thing. 12+ cubic inches though just sounds scary with the kick back the recoil could cause.

 

[Al Smith]

Belt start?

On that old model 7,my uncle had,he rigged a belt,from the pulley of a John Deere B,to start the contrary saw.It worked,saved the arm .At 14 years of age,I could barely pull it over,and I never actualy knew the weight,but it was heavy.It did,however,have a chipper chain,that threw the biggest chips I have ever seen,because it was the biggest chain,I have ,to this day,ever seen.That saw was made when men were men . I still laugh,when I think about the way the governer would "hunt",if the saw wasn't loaded,and him,yelling above the loud engine"lean on that handle boy,dang it".When my grandmother bought that McCulloch 250,I thought it was a gift from heaven .After that"little" saw,and a big old model 73 Mac,the old Mall went to the shed,never to run again .I sure wish I knew what ever happened to it,cause after over 40 years I'm over being mad at it