Hard Plastic fallin wedges with gripper teeth
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Like big rasp teeth like Cedar said .. They are very good for doubling up also . Pretty easy to spit a wedge if you have a long way to lift a tree out of a crik ect. . A 12" Hard Head tm. and a 12" toothed wedge will do alot of lifting and won,t usually spit out . . I put the toothed on the tree side when doing that ... Guys have been knocked out cold by a wedge spitting out and hitting them in the head .....
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I have used a few timber savage wedges. But frozen wood is pretty rare for me. I am partial to K&H red heads.
I bet one with the teeth down on the stump and a red head would double good though. I might just have to get one to try that with.
I bet one with the teeth down on the stump and a red head would double good though. I might just have to get one to try that with.
Looks like I'll head into town this morning. I'll see what the price is at Madsens. I know they carry the Timber Savage ones..
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I know exactly what your talking about, they do work great. I've had pretty good luck with the all orange Husqvarna wedges too, mind you, haven't used them in frozen timber though.
I saw a couple in the bargain bin, but not on the shelves. There was a quite bare spot on the shelf of wedges. My second to the favorite brand of socks went up in price! Whaaaaaaah.
Are these the type of wedges your talking about ?
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YUP > Exactly .. The brand on the ones here at the saw shop is WOODY'S ......So I think they are all made by DOUBLE TAPER tm. . I like double taper wedges for thawed out timber ..........
. The trick for using them as a bucking wedge is , you pretty much HAVE TO SAW THEM OUT , if you are just getting your bar back and the logs don,t separate when you finish your buck ....... If you make a few little cuts beside the wedge once you get your saw out you can get the toothed wedges back from the buck ... where as with a smooth faced wedge you can knock them side to side and they come out fine . I have had plenty of wedges spit out of bucks , especially in frozen wood ..... I hate it when they are LOST FOREVER !!
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. Good pics Dan ....
. The trick for using them as a bucking wedge is , you pretty much HAVE TO SAW THEM OUT , if you are just getting your bar back and the logs don,t separate when you finish your buck ....... If you make a few little cuts beside the wedge once you get your saw out you can get the toothed wedges back from the buck ... where as with a smooth faced wedge you can knock them side to side and they come out fine . I have had plenty of wedges spit out of bucks , especially in frozen wood ..... I hate it when they are LOST FOREVER !!
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. Good pics Dan ....
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That exactly what I got dancan 
Great wedges! Just to short depending how big the trees are. Ones I got looked ecatly like that and they didnt even have a brand name or package lolz.
I havent ever taken a hit by a wedge but I have about 6 stihl wedges for bigger trees. Some times when they chip the peices go every where and it feels like dodging shrapnal......
Great wedges! Just to short depending how big the trees are. Ones I got looked ecatly like that and they didnt even have a brand name or package lolz. I havent ever taken a hit by a wedge but I have about 6 stihl wedges for bigger trees. Some times when they chip the peices go every where and it feels like dodging shrapnal......
I had one spit out that hit my nephew in the temple and i thought i killed him. He had a head ache for 2 days.
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Wow. Before you know it loggers are going to have to be equiped with flak jackets and riot helmets! Thats ok though. I colect guns and tactical gear so I'm good ^^
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Tramp, you mean like when you buck off some log while standing within a very sticky situation and have a wedge in it while you finish the complete seperation and you thankfully got the log cut off and nothing around you really moved and you're ok but then you have to get your wedge back and you say "#### it aint no way I'm retrieving that one and it just stays.
Maybe the stem bumped free hit by a later felling or bucking and the wedge drops out and you can sneak down there and find it.
But then theres losing it in the snow....
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Yup.
..In Southeast alot of time it will snow till the end of April , Riggin crew gets to find lots of stuff when the snow is gone ......
Plus in the summer there is so much brush you can,t even see the ground , if it's there let alone a wedge thats hiding .
..In Southeast alot of time it will snow till the end of April , Riggin crew gets to find lots of stuff when the snow is gone ......
Plus in the summer there is so much brush you can,t even see the ground , if it's there let alone a wedge thats hiding .
LOL...yup. Ever had to leave a wedge when you're doing a russian coupling? You figure "no problem I'll just get it out when I jackpot the next one down the hill"? Right....the jackpot hits the one you crippled up, the coupling breaks and if that damn wedge went any higher and farther it would have a stewardess and an in-flight movie.
I've never seen the point in taking any time to look for a wedge that's probably clear over in the next county.hammerlogging
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the other day I had a tree sit over sideways on me before I'd pulled outto hit my backstrap- too much crown weight and it wasn't going to go sidehill like I intended. It was a pistol butt too so maybe since the hinge was not on your typical grain......
Anyhow, remove powerhead, bar and chain stuck in tree. With axe chopped out my backstrap, tree breaks off downhill, not as intended sidehill. Couldn't get the bar and chain out before I had to escape but saw the butt flip about 12 feet in the air with the bar and chain still stuck on it as it flopped across all the sidehill timber below it, catapulting the bar and chain into the air. Recovered the bar, never found the (almost brand new) chain. Lost in th snow. Argh. Got my other chain. The damn stem slid about 400' downhill across all the snow covered sidehilled timber below it all the way to the creek, blowing out the top on the way. But since its a helicopter cut, I had to go all the way down there to butt off the pistol butt and top it to the right specs anyhow, and so then i was in one of those awful positions with a stick you have to cut laying downhill on a 60 degree plus slope on top of all those sidehill snow covered (think "well lubed") stems.
Adding insult to injury, is that what its called?
And thinking to myself, "cant get no production like that" Argh.
Love it every minute anyhow. But damn it can test your patience sometimes.
Anyhow, remove powerhead, bar and chain stuck in tree. With axe chopped out my backstrap, tree breaks off downhill, not as intended sidehill. Couldn't get the bar and chain out before I had to escape but saw the butt flip about 12 feet in the air with the bar and chain still stuck on it as it flopped across all the sidehill timber below it, catapulting the bar and chain into the air. Recovered the bar, never found the (almost brand new) chain. Lost in th snow. Argh. Got my other chain. The damn stem slid about 400' downhill across all the snow covered sidehilled timber below it all the way to the creek, blowing out the top on the way. But since its a helicopter cut, I had to go all the way down there to butt off the pistol butt and top it to the right specs anyhow, and so then i was in one of those awful positions with a stick you have to cut laying downhill on a 60 degree plus slope on top of all those sidehill snow covered (think "well lubed") stems.
Adding insult to injury, is that what its called?
And thinking to myself, "cant get no production like that" Argh.
Love it every minute anyhow. But damn it can test your patience sometimes.
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hammerlogging
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LOL...yup. Ever had to leave a wedge when you're doing a russian coupling? You figure "no problem I'll just get it out when I jackpot the next one down the hill"? Right....the jackpot hits the one you crippled up, the coupling breaks and if that damn wedge went any higher and farther it would have a stewardess and an in-flight movie.
Love it.I know exactly what your talking about im curently working along the missippi river here and i found me some pretty nasty ground. Its not as steep but its reallly rocky and the snow is knee deep it makes for a long day. My caulks dont do much good on this hill either .Do the red wood spikes maake a difference in snow? This hill wouldnt be bad with out the snow.
AT sawyer
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"Textured wedges"
Before I go out, I take a coarse rasp to my wedges to put some real texture on them. With the exception of the toothed wedges, most are too smooth. I do most of my bucking with a crosscut saw, so the kerf is real narrow and the wedges need to get a good grip early.
One thing I've noticed about hammering wedges is the sound they make just before popping out. The tighter they get, the higher the pitch of the sound they make when hit. When they start to "ring", I stop hammering and put in another wedge somewhere else. You might not hear this with a saw running and your ears plugged. That sound also puts me on notice that maybe I should be underbucking the rest of the cut.
Before I go out, I take a coarse rasp to my wedges to put some real texture on them. With the exception of the toothed wedges, most are too smooth. I do most of my bucking with a crosscut saw, so the kerf is real narrow and the wedges need to get a good grip early.
One thing I've noticed about hammering wedges is the sound they make just before popping out. The tighter they get, the higher the pitch of the sound they make when hit. When they start to "ring", I stop hammering and put in another wedge somewhere else. You might not hear this with a saw running and your ears plugged. That sound also puts me on notice that maybe I should be underbucking the rest of the cut.
