Help I.D. this wood

[sILlogger]

humm... PA's alot different then around here, cuz we only get maple in the bottom ground and it is all silver. and we get a bit of hard maple.

 

[PA Plumber]

humm... PA's alot different then around here, cuz we only get maple in the bottom ground and it is all silver. and we get a bit of hard maple.

We do have oodles of Silver Maple though. Lots and lots of them along creek/stream edges.

 

[sILlogger]

doesn't hemlock grow pretty readily and get pretty big around here? oak and poplar?

 

[PA Plumber]

doesn't hemlock grow pretty readily and get pretty big around here? oak and poplar?

We have White Oak line trees pushing 4 to 5 feet in diameter. The Tulip Popular trees are often 50' easy to the first branch. Our place should be ready for a Tulip harvest in the next 10 years. We have about 6 acres of min. 15 diameter trees over 80' tall. I am doing a Hemlock specific cut right now due to the Woolley Adelgid. There are a few trees in the high 20's DBH. Also, we have a lot of Sycamore, Chestnut Oak, some Red, Scarlett and Black Oak and a few Pignut and Shagbark Hickory trees. There are White Pine, Red Cedar, Black Walnut, Locust, Basswood, Ironwood, Black Cherry, and American Chestnut; Just not a lot. Other trees too, but those are the main ones.

 

[sILlogger]

white oak line trees??? u talking white oak family?? u got chestnut around there? i didn't think there was any of that left?? sounds pretty close to around here except we really don't have any pines, chestnut, or hemlock

 

[PA Plumber]

white oak line trees??? u talking white oak family?? u got chestnut around there? i didn't think there was any of that left?? sounds pretty close to around here except we really don't have any pines, chestnut, or hemlock

Yep, White Oak line trees...Survey flitches (blazes) on them to mark the property lines.

The American Chestnut trees are a positive ID by the County forester. We have a nice grove of 6" DBH and smaller trees. Any bigger and they are dead or are in the process.

We have acres of Chestnut Oak trees. They don't seem to grow as straight or as quickly at the other Oak Species though.

 

[sILlogger]

how in the world do they just die like that? they just get that big before the blight gets to them or what? s there any way to prevent it or get rid of the blight?

 

[PA Plumber]

I asked the county forester about the blight situation. He said the only thing was to plant blight resistant chinese strain chestnut trees (Not available yet, but should be in the next few years). It seems there isn't much that can be done for our stand. We have about 15 to 20 small trees. You can actually watch the blight progress from year to year. The trees look very good at first and then terrible.

 

[Peacock]

I know I have a poor reputation for ID on the site, but I actually do fairly well when looking at the tree in person. Also, I have had 2 loggers and 1 forestry company ID lots of Red Maples while reviewing our place.

Sugar Maple is a lot more rare for us.

Sure you do?!!?:greenchainsaw:

LOL!!!



Seriously though. Around here we have lots of sugar maple in the wild. Silver maple aren't nearly as common as sugar maple in the woods. Oak and beech aren't common at all in the woods here either. Mostly sugar maple and white ash on our property. Got a few sugar maple that are 4' dbh!

 

[PA Plumber]

Sure you do?!!?:greenchainsaw:

LOL!!!



Seriously though. Around here we have lots of sugar maple in the wild. Silver maple aren't nearly as common as sugar maple in the woods. Oak and beech aren't common at all in the woods here either. Mostly sugar maple and white ash on our property. Got a few sugar maple that are 4' dbh!

Wow. 4' Sugar Maples sound huge to me. I forgot, we happen to have lots and lots of beech trees. Quite a few in the 20 + DBH range and some pushing 30".

 

[sILlogger]

yea we got some big sugar maples around here 2, ive seen a few 4+ footers, got one in my yard actually. and we get alot of silver maples on the bottom ground. we get beach an poplar in the very souther part of the start(bottom 75 miles of the state) and other than that we don't have any, the rest is oak and hickory

 

[Peacock]

Wow. 4' Sugar Maples sound huge to me. I forgot, we happen to have lots and lots of beech trees. Quite a few in the 20 + DBH range and some pushing 30".

It seems any beech around here that is over 20" is hollow, even otherwise healthy trees. That true there too?

I counted 7 sugar maples on the farm yesterday that I'd say were in excess of 36".

 

[PA Plumber]

It seems any beech around here that is over 20" is hollow, even otherwise healthy trees. That true there too?

I counted 7 sugar maples on the farm yesterday that I'd say were in excess of 36".

Nope, the Beech are not hollow. My first cut with my 441 was into a blown down Beech. The 24" bar just barely made it all the way through when I worked the saw around the tree. It wouldn't have made it if I would have tried to go straight down. That tree was solid. Oh yeah, that first cut was up from the root flare about 6 feet.

 

[sILlogger]

when it comes to cutting timber beach is quite iffy, ive been into patches that were almost all as hollow as a gord....walk through the woods sticking you saw into trees to see if they are hollow(doesn't kill them because beach is diffuse porous-doesn't have growth rings like an oak(ring-porous), the 'important stuff' is spread throughout the entire cross-section of the trunk) and if u do cut these then u might have to cut several feet off of them to hit solis wood, or the entire tree might be bad. and then i have been in patches were they are almost all solid....:monkey: and to be completely honest i really dont' like cutting beech...

 

[PA Plumber]

I have never burned Beech, but I'm told it's pretty good stuff, once its seasoned.

Why don't you like cutting Beech? I have only run my saw through a couple of times.

 

[sILlogger]

it saws hard(harder than oak or hickory), its heavy, its often hollow, limbs split alot when topping, alot of limbs, big root flare, just not my favorite trees to cut.....which are burr oak, sweetgum, and poplar(love the stuff)

 

[PA Plumber]

Back to an earlier post... You can sink a bar in a Beech and not hurt it one bit? Wow. We had some beavers chew the outer bark (complete circumference, 1 1/2 foot section) off some nice trees and it looks like they are coming back. Is it likely they will continue to survive?

 

[sILlogger]

yep, its just like "girdling"-cutting a ring around a tree to kill it. it works on ring porous tree(the bulk of trees, oaks, hickories, etc.) because the nutrient transporting part of the tree is just inside the bark, hence the "rings" that occur from each years growth...but on a beach "diffuse porous" the nutrient transporting parts are scattered in bundles throughout the entirety of the tree, thus there are not as distinct rings as in a diffuse porous species. hope this explains it for ya

 

[PA Plumber]

Thank you for the info. Sorry to all for taking it way off topic, but very informative.

 

[njtuna]

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=46951 i thought i was chopping up an oak tree (i am a newbie), but a very knowledgeable friend told me i was cutting up maple. it looks similar to the maple you are cutting. the link is to the thread i started a while back. i think there are some good bark pics too. the bark on mine looks thicker though, at least in places.