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hey mike.......is this what you meant by prop up?
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and yea it worked.
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just a few more cuts
Nice one, Ken!!
I have three 10 foot 4x4's that I often use, lashed together to form a tripod. Use it to protect plants sometimes, but also for propping up a leaner, as you did. I once set up two tripods, on a deck, allowing me to cut the good sized fir tree that was fallen on to the roof back to just above the deck, then keep going by cutting past the first tripod. also supported a fir that was barely resting on a fiberglass roofed patio.
We have had two recent windstorms, nothing over 45 mph, but it has resulted in several jobs. I have two purple plums to look at tomorrow, two different calls, both uprooted. I hope to be able to right and save. One potential client had a phone quote of $1400. If I can save the 12 inch dbh plum, it sure won't cost that much!!!
Today we did two jobs, one a downed maple, split due to old large low limb cuts that introduced decay, the other a locust lodged in a big maple. Each job is half done, as it was too windy to do them all. More standing maples to remove on the first job.Each is rigged and ready to do more. We'll brush out a standing locust then use the Hobbs to lift the leaning locust out of the maple and clear of a pine and the fence. Then we went to the third job and removed a really nice mountain ash, loaded with berries, loved by wildlife, but a huge mess for both yards, and staired entry ways. Got done at 7 pm, had to haul the firewood, but it will burn nicely in my woodstove in a year or so. A fun $1700 day.
I have three 10 foot 4x4's that I often use, lashed together to form a tripod. Use it to protect plants sometimes, but also for propping up a leaner, as you did. I once set up two tripods, on a deck, allowing me to cut the good sized fir tree that was fallen on to the roof back to just above the deck, then keep going by cutting past the first tripod. also supported a fir that was barely resting on a fiberglass roofed patio.
We have had two recent windstorms, nothing over 45 mph, but it has resulted in several jobs. I have two purple plums to look at tomorrow, two different calls, both uprooted. I hope to be able to right and save. One potential client had a phone quote of $1400. If I can save the 12 inch dbh plum, it sure won't cost that much!!!
Today we did two jobs, one a downed maple, split due to old large low limb cuts that introduced decay, the other a locust lodged in a big maple. Each job is half done, as it was too windy to do them all. More standing maples to remove on the first job.Each is rigged and ready to do more. We'll brush out a standing locust then use the Hobbs to lift the leaning locust out of the maple and clear of a pine and the fence. Then we went to the third job and removed a really nice mountain ash, loaded with berries, loved by wildlife, but a huge mess for both yards, and staired entry ways. Got done at 7 pm, had to haul the firewood, but it will burn nicely in my woodstove in a year or so. A fun $1700 day.
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That's what I was talking about.
I'm glad my internet training is paying off for you. If you need me to teach you any more advanced techniques, just holler.
Rb,
Re-standing a 12 inch tree could be a challenge. Perhaps this would be a good time to bring in an Air Spade. It's east to pull on a little tree like that, but the soil always prevents it from standing up all the way.
I'm also wondering how you had a $1700 dollar day if both jobs are still not done. Hope you don't count your chickens before the eggs are laid.
I'm glad my internet training is paying off for you. If you need me to teach you any more advanced techniques, just holler.
Rb,
Re-standing a 12 inch tree could be a challenge. Perhaps this would be a good time to bring in an Air Spade. It's east to pull on a little tree like that, but the soil always prevents it from standing up all the way.
I'm also wondering how you had a $1700 dollar day if both jobs are still not done. Hope you don't count your chickens before the eggs are laid.
Dang nice, never lashed one so elaborately mes-elf.
One other virtue of this is ya can clear it back to the supports, tie bottom of support to truck and pull support out (if it is clear from obstacles underneath); with noone near it to finish.
On downed trees, i look to save the support legs, and trim off any other non-stabilizing weight. Sometimes i'll find a fair floating piece closer to trunk than other support leg(s), cut it to just enough length; then cut down back further partially till that length can be pushed (forcing hinge with bodywieght at farthest leverage point makes it stronger than flexing over on leg's own weight)to the ground to almost make a leg of support. Tie a line binding both sides of cut (so leg can't straighten back out) if you need to. Done right (forced strong, no FaceCut)the uncut fiber from BackCut (down on horizontal) keeps the almost support leg from going side to side(tourqued/twisted fiber on sides of cut), or folding further(compressing uncut wood in face), the line (if needed) keeps the almost support leg from straightening back out, that's all 4 directions of potential motion secured. Then i slow cut other main support leg(s) to take the weight from them, and place the weight bearing on my chosen/manufactured support(s). Then dispense with length, that was needed for the original support leg(s), even if some of that was high leveraged support from brush on a gutter and roof etc. (long as more weight on other side of support-s) i can now cut and place weight on my support(s) giving limited movement, and positive early stop as the new support takes the weight. At finish if needed and safe, this leg can be remotely triggered with truck and line, everyone clear also.
Or somethinglike that.
:alien:
One other virtue of this is ya can clear it back to the supports, tie bottom of support to truck and pull support out (if it is clear from obstacles underneath); with noone near it to finish.
On downed trees, i look to save the support legs, and trim off any other non-stabilizing weight. Sometimes i'll find a fair floating piece closer to trunk than other support leg(s), cut it to just enough length; then cut down back further partially till that length can be pushed (forcing hinge with bodywieght at farthest leverage point makes it stronger than flexing over on leg's own weight)to the ground to almost make a leg of support. Tie a line binding both sides of cut (so leg can't straighten back out) if you need to. Done right (forced strong, no FaceCut)the uncut fiber from BackCut (down on horizontal) keeps the almost support leg from going side to side(tourqued/twisted fiber on sides of cut), or folding further(compressing uncut wood in face), the line (if needed) keeps the almost support leg from straightening back out, that's all 4 directions of potential motion secured. Then i slow cut other main support leg(s) to take the weight from them, and place the weight bearing on my chosen/manufactured support(s). Then dispense with length, that was needed for the original support leg(s), even if some of that was high leveraged support from brush on a gutter and roof etc. (long as more weight on other side of support-s) i can now cut and place weight on my support(s) giving limited movement, and positive early stop as the new support takes the weight. At finish if needed and safe, this leg can be remotely triggered with truck and line, everyone clear also.
Or somethinglike that.
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I did something similar recently however I cut a receiving notch into the trunk for added security.
Mikeypoo RB charges more than that on an hourly basis (yes he’s just that good).
The $1700 I believe is compensation for the help and is a combination of high flying Canadian currency, stock options in RB Tree corp, booty bucks, and a bonus cord of firewood.
Mikeypoo RB charges more than that on an hourly basis (yes he’s just that good).
The $1700 I believe is compensation for the help and is a combination of high flying Canadian currency, stock options in RB Tree corp, booty bucks, and a bonus cord of firewood.
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Dang, i din't think he'd notice , you were right SB.....
i think OR's has a pretty good appeal!
i think OR's has a pretty good appeal!
MM,
The 12 inch plum turned out to be a goner. It would have required a crane to reset, and then permanent ground anchors....but there was no place to set them. The tree had a very heavy canopy and shallow roots...like leyland cypress, purple plum can outgrow their root support system easily.
Re the $1700, that was figuring the portions of the jobs completed. We have another $400-1100 on one, and $400 on the other to do. The $400 one and another job will happen today...as we are so darned busy..no day off.
Silver Blue...
Thanks for the explanations...and the compliment. I'll use them to complement my resume!!
The 12 inch plum turned out to be a goner. It would have required a crane to reset, and then permanent ground anchors....but there was no place to set them. The tree had a very heavy canopy and shallow roots...like leyland cypress, purple plum can outgrow their root support system easily.
Re the $1700, that was figuring the portions of the jobs completed. We have another $400-1100 on one, and $400 on the other to do. The $400 one and another job will happen today...as we are so darned busy..no day off.
Silver Blue...
Thanks for the explanations...and the compliment. I'll use them to complement my resume!!
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