That being said, I've seen a couple shops around here that are working on these clone-saws.If you need to take it somewhere to get it fixed, a clone is not for you.
That being said, I've seen a couple shops around here that are working on these clone-saws.If you need to take it somewhere to get it fixed, a clone is not for you.
Their suppliers are probably too busy cranking out parts for FarmertecAND yet still can't catch up on parts production
I heard about that fiasco.Making more money AND laying people off/shuttering doors AND having quality control issues AND yet still can't catch up on parts production (AND in the case of Husqy, have a whole messed up warehouse system since their implementation failed)
What's the incentive of buying OEM anymore?
Back on topic for the thread, does anyone know what chainsaws the pros in China use?
I was curious about that myself but couldn't find any information.
If you can watch this
She's running a zenoah clone
Her technique sucks.
I was curious about that myself but couldn't find any information.
If you can watch this
She's running a zenoah clone
Her technique sucks.
Don't sound "good" to me.Holzfforma, Neotec, Farmmac and unbranded saws are good. (But! However!)
The quality control is not even close to Stihl or Husqvarna.
“IF” the buyer is not mechanically inclined
“THEN” buy OEM because you stand to get a poor running saw 10-20% of the time.
The reasons are:
- The Chinese mass produce these saws and their parts
- The “brand” labels them.
- Some are made under a “brand” in China and have “slightly” better QC (quality control)
- The carburetors are a weak point in these saws.
- I am taking an experienced educated guess that one in five will never run right; mostly because of the carbs.
- The cylinders and ports and pistons are 70-90% the quality and finish of OEM. (You won’t know unless you compare them)
- The Chinese saw will never be as powerful nor run as well as OEM. (Unless you port, gasket delete, muffler mod etc)
- It is more likely to die sooner. In a year or twenty years; but side by side with OEM properly maintained and stored. OEM can be handed down to your grandchildren. China import; only if you replace parts with OEM.
- Switches, chain tensioners and many little parts are not near OEM reliability, quality and longevity of service.
But I said they are good saws, didn’t I?
- For the money if you have repair skills.
- Get a spare carb or two. I have 4 spares just for the 372XP clone. (One is a “Genuine Walbro”, made in China, two are Huayang and one probably 50/50 “if is good” carb that I have a carb kit to fix.)
- I grease the chain tensioner properly.
- I have multiple switches and 2 spare recoil assemblies.
- I also have many spare parts for them and redundancy of entire saws.
So with that said, my cost per 372XP is about $300 each before bar and chain.
That “includes all the spare parts” and backlog of repairs I might need. (NOT the “spare saw”)
The 28” lightweight bars are very good; stiffer than the Japanese high priced ones.
- The Chains are just “OK”; they stretch way too much early on.
- (Don’t let those lightweight bars get too hot however; but that is true will all resin filled bars)
- I don’t know about the aluma-sandwich bars from China, yet.
Yeah. "IF" reliable and makes you cash; get OEM. "IF" an hour of your time and a few bucks on "insurance" parts at 1/3 the price is worth it. Then these are great; I mean "good" ... especially if you make cash with them. Then you can afford OEM.Don't sound "good" to me.
I have three that I am keeping!People NEVER include ECHO when they refer to good saws. I'll take my ECHO's over a Husky or Stihl any day and overall they cost less as well. More than a chink saw but less than the other 2.
I have three that I am keeping!
I hate defending this Shlt but damn it here It goes, fekk!!
Its made by stihl to stihl quality using stihl's control measures and materials by people trained by stihl, now replace the stihl with husqvarna because its the same story. Too bad chevrolet, ford and a slew of other companies allowed their product qulity to slip after moving productions to china. I know stihl zama carb production was moved over to main land china some time in the early 90's and before that it was hong kong in the 80's....the irish verson is my preferred carb even with the plastic needle seat plate.
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