indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
TreeTom rep for a fantastic post. This is a great deal of whats wrong with this country.
How are other tree companies doing?
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Can't complain works piling up, doing less advertising and still getting more work. I have a pretty good back log already, its only early May.
The illegals have been living here since I can't remember. This area seems to be a major hub for illegal mexicans, been that way all my life. They are no match though for an educated arborist that sells his own work and does the work himself. I know companies that have CA selling the work but then show up on the job with a bunch of unqualified illegals. Seems to put a bad taste in some customers mouths. My standards and quality of work speak for itself thats what keeps them coming back.
The illegals have been living here since I can't remember. This area seems to be a major hub for illegal mexicans, been that way all my life. They are no match though for an educated arborist that sells his own work and does the work himself. I know companies that have CA selling the work but then show up on the job with a bunch of unqualified illegals. Seems to put a bad taste in some customers mouths. My standards and quality of work speak for itself thats what keeps them coming back.
mckeetree
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Yeah. Some of these guys have no idea the kind of problem that can impose.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
im not sure but alot of the other tree services i see use mexicans and thier are alot of mexicans riding around doing tree work. im sure we loose alot to them but alot of small jobs. i think we mainly do alot of jobs that they just cant do do to owning things like a 120,000$ crane and a 100,000$ bucket i mean how are they gonna purcahse that kinda stuff chargin 250 for a take down.
we setup a GRCS system on 90% of our trees. ladders and a chainsaw aint gonna cut it doing alot of this work.
30% of our work is city contract that is subbed out they cant do that also enless they get ISA cert and insurance.
thats the only stuff i can think of but im not sure.
but sunrise guy you ar right you are in an area way more likely for imigrants to show up and want to find work it has been that way for 20 years or more and probably always will be. they usually just dont make it this far north i guess CA. TX are both high in mexican population.
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treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
Well if JOE LEGAL wasn't to proud to take the work that JOSE ILLEGAL jumped all over for the last 80 0r so years than Jose ILLEGAL would have no chance at work , they were here before the GREAT DEPRESSION and they'll still be here for a long time, this country can't afford to pay what JOE LEGAL wants to produce the food we eat and the clothes we wear , please stop and think about what your saying before sharing with anyone else ....
mckeetree
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No, you are the one that needs to stop and think about what you are saying before sharing with anyone else.
Treetom
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"Illegal aliens crossing the border and using up our country's resources without paying into the system is what I say is a problem." You can quote me on that. I'm not saying anything about the legal citizens that have been here since way back. The other post was a forward from an email I received. It's a rhetorical comment. But I believe it reflects the truth in many ways. You may feel differently if you lived in Texas or California about illegal Mexicans. I've thought about it, treeclimber. The "to" (sp) proud legal worker is a whole other issue.
beowulf343
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I don't usually agree with treeclimber101, but this time i think he's right. People don't want to do the dirty hard work anymore or they want to make $60 dollars an hour doing it. I can see it happening right now. I've only been climbing for fifteen years-at that time there was only one immigrant doing tree work in the area and he was from Cuba. Today, my boss is trying to put together another crew and can't find anyone but immigrants willing to do the work. He pays very well, full benefits, all of us are able to support our families with just the one job, but nobody wants to work a demanding physical job, 50 hours a week, outside, except for the immigrants. It seems like if it's not an office job paying six figures a year, Americans don't want to do it. (Not saying all Americans, but it seems to be trending that way.) I hear about unemployment and am amazed. If people were willing to get their hands dirty, I know a dozen jobs in the area that pay enough to support them and their family. Heck, my boss is willing to pay a newbie 16 an hour to drag brush and isn't getting takers. Laziness and an unwillingness to get dirty is opening the door for a mexican takeover.
Yep.
Most of the white boys just dont have it these days.. been going through it for years here. You should see this ##### I made the mistake of hiring.
Most of the white boys just dont have it these days.. been going through it for years here. You should see this ##### I made the mistake of hiring.
tomtrees58
Addicted to ArboristSite
it was busy but slow now
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
No its the issue , if the position was filled why would you travel here, people sugar coat the laziness and willingness of our youth , and even in this little hole were in those who complain of lack of work oppurtunities still are unwilling to work these jobs plain and simple..Oh and lets not forget that the GOV. makes plenty off these guys with there fake SS# its pretty hard to do a return with a fake # so the government collects and doesn't pay any of it back , so believe me they want them here to, its free money for UNCLE SAM
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Treetom
ArboristSite Guru
As far as how I'm doing with the tree service, I'm usually scheduled out for a week. I write quite a few estimates, probably get about 25% of those jobs. A lot of work comes from repeat clients. I keep a three man crew busy for 25 hours a week, a little more this past week.
ewoolsey
ArboristSite Operative
people who hire them are all greedy , they make me sick.
ewoolsey
ArboristSite Operative
have work ,but the rain and high winds keep us from getting much done , 1-2 days a week if lucky.
This is generally the category that I fall into as well - unless its a crap year like last year, it was just a battle to stay afloat.
Things are looking real good so far this year. It just gets hard to keep up sometimes, I have to say though. This is usually where I find I have dropped the ball and run out of work at times in the past.. trying to be employee like and just do the work, while slacking off on the biz end. I'm gonna try and stay on top of things this year though.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
You must be ill alot ....
huskystihl
Addicted to ArboristSite
Wet in ohio! Everytime it dries a bit it pours some more and anything I could be doing is in yards that you can't rut up. Same story every year though, start out slow and end up killin myself...
TreEmergencyB
ArboristSite Guru
to bad im in the process of getting a mortgage i need to get outa my company!!
treeman75
Addicted to ArboristSite
I hear ya I like doing my own cutting. You still have to take time to run bids and other things, it seems like the ground work gets done faster if I'm around though.
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