How do you remove big wood with no crane?

[david1332]

My opinion, walk away,,what you have described (the way I see it),
is that I would bid it at $7,700
you do the math,,
Jeff
BTW, do you actually get any of these job's you ask us to bid on?
Jeff

Prices are tough around me though. Company's from all over jersey do work around me. It's kinda ridiculous how saturated my area is with landscapers and tree guys. Now if they were all legit then I wouldn't have a problem. But only about 20% have insurance, proper gear and are sober with A drivers license. Pretty sad if you ask me

 

[jasper nl]

Hm

 

[jasper nl]

Most people ask what it costs its my work next to it but everyone have to reconfirm it for itselfe including insurance but most important is experience

 

[jasper nl]

Look at rge pictures next week but first potatoo harvest

 

[Jed1124]

Prices are tough around me though. Company's from all over jersey do work around me. It's kinda ridiculous how saturated my area is with landscapers and tree guys. Now if they were all legit then I wouldn't have a problem. But only about 20% have insurance, proper gear and are sober with A drivers license. Pretty sad if you ask me

He ain't lying. And rock bottom pricing to boot. Trees are not valued in his area. Arborists are few and far between. Tree cutters are the majority. Last time I was down at my folks house they had a magnet on the fridge from a tree Co listing topping as one of there services
Not a poor area either by any means. Bad tree culture.

 

[computeruser]

I have hired two big removals out of my downtown 1920-1930s neighborhood lot within the past three years. Both were crane removals. One was a huge two-stem white oak, the other a very tall cottonwood. Whole tree, in each case, was down and all the brush chipped before noon. Remaining wood stayed on site for firewood. There was no damage to landscaping or to the lawn, apart from that which I caused in cutting and splitting.

Having seen how easy and clean a job it was with a crane, I would much sooner hire one than have the tree chunked down, destroying my yard in the process and taking days to get done. In each instance, the tree company subbed out the crane to a guy in the community who is THE crane expert. I think he got $500 for 3 hours of crane time. Something to think about when bidding these jobs out.

 

[tomtrees58]

 

[david1332]

He ain't lying. And rock bottom pricing to boot. Trees are not valued in his area. Arborists are few and far between. Tree cutters are the majority. Last time I was down at my folks house they had a magnet on the fridge from a tree Co listing topping as one of there services
Not a poor area either by any means. Bad tree culture.

PREACH PREACH PREACH

 

[david1332]

I have hired two big removals out of my downtown 1920-1930s neighborhood lot within the past three years. Both were crane removals. One was a huge two-stem white oak, the other a very tall cottonwood. Whole tree, in each case, was down and all the brush chipped before noon. Remaining wood stayed on site for firewood. There was no damage to landscaping or to the lawn, apart from that which I caused in cutting and splitting.

Having seen how easy and clean a job it was with a crane, I would much sooner hire one than have the tree chunked down, destroying my yard in the process and taking days to get done. In each instance, the tree company subbed out the crane to a guy in the community who is THE crane expert. I think he got $500 for 3 hours of crane time. Something to think about when bidding these jobs out.

1 small problem.
What happens when there's no access for a crane?

 

[david1332]

He ain't lying. And rock bottom pricing to boot. Trees are not valued in his area. Arborists are few and far between. Tree cutters are the majority. Last time I was down at my folks house they had a magnet on the fridge from a tree Co listing topping as one of there services
Not a poor area either by any means. Bad tree culture.

There's a ton of money in my area, not ritzy but there's ALOT of more than comfortable people here. The worst though are those of a certain nationality. Y'all from jersey know who I'm talking about. And believe me I am in no means racist, just a fact in my area

 

[Ryan'smilling]

There's a ton of money in my area, not ritzy but there's ALOT of more than comfortable people here. The worst though are those of a certain nationality. Y'all from jersey know who I'm talking about. And believe me I am in no means racist, just a fact in my area

Hate to say it, but that sure sounds racist... Nothing preceded a racist statement quite like, "I'm not racist, but.."

 

[computeruser]

1 small problem.
What happens when there's no access for a crane?

Set it on an adjoining property? Use a bigger crane with more reach or a jib at a different angle from the main boom?

 

[no tree to big]

Yeah let's call in a 200 ton for the **** of it just so you don't have to fix a divot or two... yeah ok I'll get right on it. Or you could go buy 20 bucks of grass seed...

People there is a way to cut trees with out a bucket and/or crane. Sometimes you just have to man up and do it the old fashioned way. Break out the taut line, manila rope and leg irons then slip into your man suit!

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[Zale]

After having read this whole thread and the OP's responses, I would say run from this job and don't look back. Call the client and say you are no longer interested. Given your experience and lack of equipment, I would stick to the smaller jobs. Let the bottom feeders kill each other. Your going to lose money on the job if you go out and but a 660. The key on jobs like this is to get in and get out. Cutting up logs into tiny pieces, moving them and loading them is a job killer at your pricing. Just my opinion.

 

[BC WetCoast]

I have hired two big removals out of my downtown 1920-1930s neighborhood lot within the past three years. Both were crane removals. One was a huge two-stem white oak, the other a very tall cottonwood. Whole tree, in each case, was down and all the brush chipped before noon. Remaining wood stayed on site for firewood. There was no damage to landscaping or to the lawn, apart from that which I caused in cutting and splitting.

Having seen how easy and clean a job it was with a crane, I would much sooner hire one than have the tree chunked down, destroying my yard in the process and taking days to get done. In each instance, the tree company subbed out the crane to a guy in the community who is THE crane expert. I think he got $500 for 3 hours of crane time. Something to think about when bidding these jobs out.

$166/hr for a crane - CHEAP.
It costs us $400/hr - 4 hour minimum.
If we got those rates, we would use a crane a way more too.

Of course I can buy top soil for $35/yd and grass seed for $10. We arent talking Augusta National although way too many people think their lawns are on par (get it get it)

 

[BC WetCoast]

Prices are tough around me though. Company's from all over jersey do work around me. It's kinda ridiculous how saturated my area is with landscapers and tree guys. Now if they were all legit then I wouldn't have a problem. But only about 20% have insurance, proper gear and are sober with A drivers license. Pretty sad if you ask me

The tree biz is difficult and highly competitive everywhere. Talk to Sunrise Guy to see what it's like in Texas where he's competing against the new immigrants. The biz has a low barrier to entry, hence lots of competition and low prices. The key is to find a specialty niche. Check out Marquis Tree north of you, big wood removal specialists.

If the competition isn't legit and it really bothers you, rat them out.

 

[david1332]

Yeah let's call in a 200 ton for the **** of it just so you don't have to fix a divot or two... yeah ok I'll get right on it. Or you could go buy 20 bucks of grass seed...

People there is a way to cut trees with out a bucket and/or crane. Sometimes you just have to man up and do it the old fashioned way. Break out the taut line, manila rope and leg irons then slip into your man suit!

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That's one of the best replies yet lol

 

[david1332]

After having read this whole thread and the OP's responses, I would say run from this job and don't look back. Call the client and say you are no longer interested. Given your experience and lack of equipment, I would stick to the smaller jobs. Let the bottom feeders kill each other. Your going to lose money on the job if you go out and but a 660. The key on jobs like this is to get in and get out. Cutting up logs into tiny pieces, moving them and loading them is a job killer at your pricing. Just my opinion.

I told the guy I would only be interested in the job for $4k and if I left the trunk wood cut up on site in 18 inch firewood size logs.
Doubt I'll get it. But hey I don't think I would use the 660 much anyway after this

 

[no tree to big]

I told the guy I would only be interested in the job for $4k and if I left the trunk wood cut up on site in 18 inch firewood size logs.
Doubt I'll get it. But hey I don't think I would use the 660 much anyway after this

Well that changes the whole game. Does it still stake u all week or was that if you did haul it all out?

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[david1332]

Well that changes the whole game. Does it still stake u all week or was that if you did haul it all out?

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It would only take all week if I haul it all out.