How I baby my 2 stoke motors.... 30-1 instead of 50-1

[sean donato]

Echo 6550050 Red Armor Oil Mix 2-Cycle/2-Stroke High Performance, Semi-Synthetic, Clean and Protect Against Carbon Build Up, Outdoor Power Equipment Engine Formula 128 fl oz (1 Gal. - 4 Pack.) https://a.co/eCOCbg7

 

[North by Northwest]

Echo 6550050 Red Armor Oil Mix 2-Cycle/2-Stroke High Performance, Semi-Synthetic, Clean and Protect Against Carbon Build Up, Outdoor Power Equipment Engine Formula 128 fl oz (1 Gal. - 4 Pack.) https://a.co/eCOCbg7

Yeah , shows unavailable ?

 

[sean donato]

Yeah , shows unavailable ?

Don't know brother. Must be a great white north thing...

 

[sean donato]

Think you would catch any grief crossing the border with it? In you could have a family member get it, then when you come down to visit take it home with you?

 

[North by Northwest]

Think you would catch any grief crossing the border with it? In you could have a family member get it, then when you come down to visit take it home with you?

Yeah , that's a option Sean . I will be in Michigan in 3rd week of November !

 

[link]

I use fully synthetic 2 stroke oil at 2,5%, I think that translates to about 40:1.
First tank in a new saw/cylinder or when I adjust the carburetor I use 4%, that would translate to at about 25:1

 

[North by Northwest]

I use fully synthetic 2 stroke oil at 2,5%, I think that translates to about 40:1.
First tank in a new saw/cylinder or when I adjust the carburetor I use 4%, that would translate to at about 25:1

2.6 oz oil would be 50:1. 3.2 oz oil would be 40:1. 4 oz oil would be 32:1 within a US Gallon , brother .

 

[North by Northwest]

I use fully synthetic 2 stroke oil at 2,5%, I think that translates to about 40:1.
First tank in a new saw/cylinder or when I adjust the carburetor I use 4%, that would translate to at about 25:1

Good to run a little richer on a new saw , for a few tanks altering the rpm continuously on the 1st tank to let the rings seat in .

 

[bwalker]

Good to run a little richer on a new saw , for a few tanks altering the rpm continuously on the 1st tank to let the rings seat in .

I m7ch prefer the Kentucky tune up method for breaking in a two cycle. IE bring the motor up to temp and run the piss out of it as hard as you can.
The only thing that requires break in with a two cycle are for the rings to seat. Farting around with low loads doesn't seat the rings. Fart around long enough and the motor will never seat the rings properly.
Years ago I would have never done this. That was until I seen an engine builder of great reputation flog a new motor on a dyno for break-in.

 

[aokpops]

Going to baby all my 4 cycles too. I just have to add extra oil to it. No way as smart as an engine builder or an engineer. I just add extra oil to all engines because extra oil is better. My push mower says 20 Onces I know 40 is better. I like to add an extra quart to my car after an oil change. I just know the smart people are just stupid. I really don't care I have oil blowing out every ware just doing it right. Was thinking of an oil changing place we add extra oil. For the engine savers of the world. A lot of smoke and carbon oil every ware is what you like. We have it at over fill your dip stick dot com. No one will feel safe I pole the dip stick out and wait to bottom for the results you should see oil a lot before the bottom. At over fill your dip stick will look like you blow a head gasket with so much oil. You can stop a lot of rusting from all the oil

 

[rogue60]

Going to baby all my 4 cycles too. I just have to add extra oil to it. No way as smart as an engine builder or an engineer. I just add extra oil to all engines because extra oil is better. My push mower says 20 Onces I know 40 is better. I like to add an extra quart to my car after an oil change. I just know the smart people are just stupid. I really don't care I have oil blowing out every ware just doing it right. Was thinking of an oil changing place we add extra oil. For the engine savers of the world. A lot of smoke and carbon oil every ware is what you like. We have it at over fill your dip stick dot com. No one will feel safe I pole the dip stick out and wait to bottom for the results you should see oil a lot before the bottom. At over fill your dip stick will look like you blow a head gasket with so much oil. You can stop a lot of rusting from all the oil

You have absolutely no clue of the difference between a four stroke and a two stroke that's very clear with the above rant aimed at people that run more oil in 2T's than the manual says lol
I agree best you stick with what the manual tells ya to do

 

[Tomos770]

Going to baby all my 4 cycles too. I just have to add extra oil to it. No way as smart as an engine builder or an engineer. I just add extra oil to all engines because extra oil is better. My push mower says 20 Onces I know 40 is better. I like to add an extra quart to my car after an oil change. I just know the smart people are just stupid. I really don't care I have oil blowing out every ware just doing it right. Was thinking of an oil changing place we add extra oil. For the engine savers of the world. A lot of smoke and carbon oil every ware is what you like. We have it at over fill your dip stick dot com. No one will feel safe I pole the dip stick out and wait to bottom for the results you should see oil a lot before the bottom. At over fill your dip stick will look like you blow a head gasket with so much oil. You can stop a lot of rusting from all the oil

Do this with a modern DPF/GPF equiped car.....and you will get an oil burner (and also clogged DPF/GPF filter)

Modern cars needs slightly less oil ona dipstick (1-3mm below the MAX mark...

BUT....still....
https://petepowerblog.wordpress.com...-ring-or-not-to-re-ring-that-is-the-question/
With nowadays "Cheenesium alloys"....

 

[OM617YOTA]

A better comparison would be that you're going to install an oil sump that doubles the capacity of your four stroke engine. That'd be a great mod.

 

[sean donato]

I m7ch prefer the Kentucky tune up method for breaking in a two cycle. IE bring the motor up to temp and run the piss out of it as hard as you can.
The only thing that requires break in with a two cycle are for the rings to seat. Farting around with low loads doesn't seat the rings. Fart around long enough and the motor will never seat the rings properly.
Years ago I would have never done this. That was until I seen an engine builder of great reputation flog a new motor on a dyno for break-in.

No one believes this till they see it on a dyno or believe someone like you meantion. Only time I've ever putzed an engine around was to break in the cam. Other then that, it's warm it up and load it up. We dynoed every engine we built at the machine shop. Was pretty cool to watch all the guages while it broke in and give it full load. Let you know pretty quick if you did your part right or not.

 

[huskihl]

No one believes this till they see it on a dyno or believe someone like you meantion. Only time I've ever putzed an engine around was to break in the cam. Other then that, it's warm it up and load it up. We dynoed every engine we built at the machine shop. Was pretty cool to watch all the guages while it broke in and give it full load. Let you know pretty quick if you did your part right or not.

I’ve seen a new 880 with the front of the saw covered in black goo because someone told him to idle it for a whole tank before cutting with it

 

[jellyroll]

New equipment i just tune them just a little more rich on the carburetor then run it like i stole it. Usually see results in 2-3 tanks and.

 

[jellyroll]

No one believes this till they see it on a dyno or believe someone like you meantion. Only time I've ever putzed an engine around was to break in the cam. Other then that, it's warm it up and load it up. We dynoed every engine we built at the machine shop. Was pretty cool to watch all the guages while it broke in and give it full load. Let you know pretty quick if you did your part right or not.

That craftsman s145 i gassed it up and tuned it a little then ran it hard the whole time and it is still living. It took it 3 tanks for it to settle down using the oil that came with it.

 

[aokpops]

You have absolutely no clue of the difference between a four stroke and a two stroke that's very clear with the above rant aimed at people that run more oil in 2T's than the manual says lol
I agree best you stick with what the manual tells ya to do

I like giving people crap for thinking extra oil is good. I just never hear much on people adding more oil on a 4 cycle. What I seen on both engines if you add to much oil it just blows oil out every ware. I have a few Tecumseh 2 cycle engines the gas cap read 32 to 1 I mixed it that way. I would say the muffler should never rust out .For decades I just made one mix for all 2 cycles my old Lawn boy I start with either. I do have a clue about 2 strokes back in my outboard days I would hear a new camshaft would make it faster. And there was the fraction thing 50 to 1 was more than 32 to 1

 

[sawmill sam]

You have absolutely no clue of the difference between a four stroke and a two stroke that's very clear with the above rant aimed at people that run more oil in 2T's than the manual says lol
I agree best you stick with what the manual tells ya to do

Using more oil than factory recommended amounts on 2 strokes cause more heat and carbon buildup internally.
End of story.

 

[OM617YOTA]

Using more oil than factory recommended amounts on 2 strokes cause more heat and carbon buildup internally.
End of story.

You're using the wrong oil.

Edit: And/or tuning wrong.