How I baby my 2 stoke motors.... 30-1 instead of 50-1

[camel2019]

Red Armour leaves alotnof residual oil, not residue.
And Yes Stihl oil is pure garbage.

If I wanted to pay extra for castrol then I’d buy the Stihl oil. Still haven’t figured out what castrol oil it is may be their GO line for motorcycles.

 

[bwalker]

If I wanted to pay extra for castrol then I’d buy the Stihl oil. Still haven’t figured out what castrol oil it is may be their GO line for motorcycles.

Castrol only makes the Stihl for the Canadian market. It's made by someone else in the US.

 

[MikeRock]

Exactly WHY is Stihl oil garbage? I have a lot of it here, unopened. Some is ten years old, some wife bought yesterday.
God bless

 

[camel2019]

Exactly WHY is Stihl oil garbage? I have a lot of it here, unopened. Some is ten years old, some wife bought yesterday.
God bless

Well even at 50 to 1 it spooges out the muffler of my kombi tool somehow making it past the cat and screen.

 

[North by Northwest]

Not all Stihl oil is garbage . Ultra is garbage although it's niche was 4mix engine usage . Even there it leaves as lot to be desired . Ultra HP is a overpriced premium synthetic with average performance . Stihl Premium a old production line of Group III oil is above average performance oil . Have used it for years in a MS-260 , ms-360 & ms-660 models , back in The day no problems . There are numerous better oils available Motul , Amsoil , Red Armor , Echo & even Shell-T . I now run either Amsoil or Shell in all 2 stroke applications .The most important fact is to tune your saw to the mix ratio you choose for your saws use application . The operating characteristics of a felling & bucking saw , varies from that of limbing or milling saw . I pretty well run all homeowner 2T hand held units @ 50:1 . My pro grade or commercial saws run 44:1 & my milling & hot saw runs 32:1 all with good quality non ethanol fuel .

 

[bwalker]

Not all Stihl oil is garbage . Ultra is garbage although it's niche was 4mix engine usage . Even there it leaves as lot to be desired . Ultra HP is a overpriced premium synthetic with average performance . Stihl Premium a old production line of Group III oil is above average performance oil . Have used it for years in a MS-260 , ms-360 & ms-660 models , back in The day no problems . There are numerous better oils available Motul , Amsoil , Red Armor , Echo & even Shell-T . I now run either Amsoil or Shell in all 2 stroke applications .The most important fact is to tune your saw to the mix ratio you choose for your saws use application . The operating characteristics of a felling & bucking saw , varies from that of limbing or milling saw . I pretty well run all homeowner 2T hand held units @ 50:1 . My pro grade or commercial saws run 44:1 & my milling & hot saw runs 32:1 all with good quality non ethanol fuel .

What your saying might pertain to Stihl oil sold in Canada that's made by Castrol. It doesn't pertain to the stuff sold in the US. The US sold oil has always been a lesser product than the other OEM oils.

 

[bwalker]

Exactly WHY is Stihl oil garbage? I have a lot of it here, unopened. Some is ten years old, some wife bought yesterday.
God bless

If you like paying a premium price for the poorest performing OEM oil then by all means have at it.

 

[North by Northwest]

What your saying might pertain to Stihl oil sold in Canada that's made by Castrol. It doesn't pertain to the stuff sold in the US. The US sold oil has always been a lesser product than the other OEM oils.

Hey Ben hows it going brother ! You are probably correct . The Stihl Premium bottles i have are 6 ounce bottles marked Castrol Canada . I recieved them from my son who works for the City . They use it in their commercial saws , trimmers & blowers. Its fine , my hunting buddy used the hp in his 460 for the last few yrs , no issues . I however have him converted to Saber after last season . I have never bought oem (manufacturers) oil ever . It is marginal oil at best with a dealer mark up , no thanks ! Who makes Stihls oil in US now ?

 

[bwalker]

Hey Ben hows it going brother ! You are probably correct . The Stihl Premium bottles i have are 6 ounce bottles marked Castrol Canada . I recieved them from my son who works for the City . They use it in their commercial saws , trimmers & blowers. Its fine , my hunting buddy used the hp in his 460 for the last few yrs , no issues . I however have him converted to Saber after last season . I have never used oem manufacturers oil ever . It is marginal oil at best with a dealer mark up , no thanks ! Who makes Stihls oil in the US now ?

Omni makes/packages Stihls oil in the US.
Some of the OEM oils are pretty good. Echo Red Armor and Husky's FD rated product are both very good.

 

[North by Northwest]

Omni makes/packages Stihls oil in the US.
Some of the OEM oils are pretty good. Echo Red Armor and Husky's FD rated product are both very good.

I agree Husky and Echo do produce a quality oil , although you pay for it lol. Thanks for the origin of Stihl south of the border !

 

[Campbellcontractlogging]

I’m a logger I cut 40 to 60 trees a day 6 days a week I’ve run 461 462’s and mostly 661 hard hot or cold all year round my back up saws now are echo 7310P my current big saw is a 592XP husq I’ve always run non synthetic stihl oil 50:1 no ethanol gas premium I’ve blown a 462 and a 661C the 462 lasted 1.5 years the 661 3 months 1 day I’ve had 2 other 661 one lasted 3 years and sold it the other is still running 5 years strong everything but the head piston and lower has been replaced never had an issue out of an echo years hard use haven’t had any issues with the husq but it’s young time will tell change the fuel filter every 2 weeks my point is some saws are lemons most professional saws just last. Some don’t

 

[Piotr Pakuła]

there are users who extend this time of replacing the fuel filter to 20 years

 

[toppers]

Echo at 50:1 across 3 saws and a Stihl Kombi system, it seems like a perfect oil why screw with the ratios so much, do you all like wasting oil? It’s the only oil to not only clean things up but leaves a film of oil on everything internal. Stihl Ultra did not do this for me and even made things look worse. Pretty cool knowing a saw can sits there for a year, you can turn it by hand and still see oil everywhere inside. No other oil does this in my experience so far.

 

[jakethesnake]

I’m a logger I cut 40 to 60 trees a day 6 days a week I’ve run 461 462’s and mostly 661 hard hot or cold all year round my back up saws now are echo 7310P my current big saw is a 592XP husq I’ve always run non synthetic stihl oil 50:1 no ethanol gas premium I’ve blown a 462 and a 661C the 462 lasted 1.5 years the 661 3 months 1 day I’ve had 2 other 661 one lasted 3 years and sold it the other is still running 5 years strong everything but the head piston and lower has been replaced never had an issue out of an echo years hard use haven’t had any issues with the husq but it’s young time will tell change the fuel filter every 2 weeks my point is some saws are lemons most professional saws just last. Some don’t

Just curious. What often goes when your saws give up?
It’s a different world running a saw /tool for production vs me that cuts an acre or 2 every 3 years

 

[Iffykid]

If you like paying a premium price for the poorest performing OEM oil then by all means have at it.

I would think performance is quite good it has sat unopened for 10yrs and thus never harmed a saw.

 

[Iffykid]

there are users who extend this time of replacing the fuel filter to 20 years

Seems like a waste of perfectly good usable filter, My 10mm 044s still going with original filters actually all my saws still have the original fuel filters.

 

[camel2019]

Echo at 50:1 across 3 saws and a Stihl Kombi system, it seems like a perfect oil why screw with the ratios so much, do you all like wasting oil? It’s the only oil to not only clean things up but leaves a film of oil on everything internal. Stihl Ultra did not do this for me and even made things look worse. Pretty cool knowing a saw can sits there for a year, you can turn it by hand and still see oil everywhere inside. No other oil does this in my experience so far.

My Chinese saw that I haven’t run in probably 3 years has a film of oil in it and I ran all manner of oil in that thing over the years mainly cheap stuff.

 

[North by Northwest]

Seems like a waste of perfectly good usable filter, My 10mm 044s still going with original filters actually all my saws still have the original fuel filters.

Commercial fellers go through a lot of gas . Conditions are rather dirty . I myself change or clean fuel filters probably every few years . To ensure and maintain proper tune , both air filter & fuel filter must be in good condition .

 

[Piotr Pakuła]

impurities float in the tank, it's not a motor pump to suck and clog the fuel filter

 

[North by Northwest]

impurities float in the tank, it's not a motor pump to suck and clog the fuel filter

Density varies , some impurities float others settle . Either way eventually they reach the filter !