How much wood can be dropped on concrete without breaking it?

[Walt41]

No matter what you decide, make sure you inspect the concrete with the HO before you cut anything, that existing crack from three years ago may become your problem later...just saying

 

[tree MDS]

This thread illustrates again what a disparity there is among posters on this forum. Often the lower level guys talk like "we all" this and that as though we all on the same level of knowledge and experience.

Just looked at the pict....what a cake job....you belong in the 101 forum. I wouldn't be posting this crap if I had a year in the biz. We would swat that tree like a tired fly sitting on wall.

Maybe if this dude wasn't focused on smoke and mirrors/bs, (homemade air spade, etc.) he would be a little farther along by now.. just my two cents.

 

[ForTheArborist]

Maybe if this dude wasn't focused on smoke and mirrors/bs, (homemade air spade, etc.) he would be a little farther along by now.. just my two cents.

Further along what? Look at the pole directly down the hill from the mammoth and 3 feet to the right in the direction the tree would be falling. I know sure as **** I'd be taking down the tree as easy as soaking my feet in an over sized, walk in oven, but this job site isn't going to be that easy.


The job can be screwed up in 3 ways. 1, drop the top, and nail the fancy light pole. 2, drop the spar, and roll/bounce straight away into the fancy light pole. 3, crush the fire hydrant. I could avoid the sidewalk by laying down some thick ones from the canopy on the street, and the spar would not even touch it, but that's not happenin' ladies.

I've been doing this job for more than 1 year, TV.

 

[jefflovstrom]

BTW, it's not a Torrey. It's a Stone.

Not a stone, wrong type of bark. Torrey.
Jeff

 

[tree MDS]

Further along what? Look at the pole directly down the hill from the mammoth and 3 feet to the right in the direction the tree would be falling. I know sure as **** I'd be taking down the tree as easy as soaking my feet in an over sized, walk in oven, but this job site isn't going to be that easy.


The job can be screwed up in 3 ways. 1, drop the top, and nail the fancy light pole. 2, drop the spar, and roll/bounce straight away into the fancy light pole. 3, crush the fire hydrant. I could avoid the sidewalk by laying down some thick ones from the canopy on the street, and the spar would not even touch it, but that's not happenin' ladies.

I've been doing this job for more than 1 year, TV.

Sounds good. I just wanna see some good pics. I'm sort of mildly curious how you have been progressing.

As far as just flopping that tree goes.. I can't really offer much of an opinion on that, from just a pic or two online. I would have to see it in person. My guess is more than likely the brush would keep it from rolling, and also keep the log off the sidewalk (esp. if boxed a bit high).

 

[tree md]

Butt hitch the stick you are dropping with a downgraded line. Use a porty or wrap somewhere if you feel the need to slow it down to not snap the line. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the line snaps as long as it put the brakes on the movement. I have butt hitched 60 ft 3 ft dia stems on slammers.

Nice tip. I'll be putting that one in my bag of tricks.

 

[treeclimber101]

butt hitch the stick you are dropping with a downgraded line. Use a porty or wrap somewhere if you feel the need to slow it down to not snap the line. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the line snaps as long as it put the brakes on the movement. I have butt hitched 60 ft 3 ft dia stems on slammers.

huh i am cofused , what????

 

[jefflovstrom]

huh i am cofused , what????

I will translate the vet.
I wanna see how much this old rope holds before it breaks! Yeah!
Big ol' black eye watching it come back at you.
Jeff

 

[BC WetCoast]

Further along what? Look at the pole directly down the hill from the mammoth and 3 feet to the right in the direction the tree would be falling. I know sure as **** I'd be taking down the tree as easy as soaking my feet in an over sized, walk in oven, but this job site isn't going to be that easy.


The job can be screwed up in 3 ways. 1, drop the top, and nail the fancy light pole. 2, drop the spar, and roll/bounce straight away into the fancy light pole. 3, crush the fire hydrant. I could avoid the sidewalk by laying down some thick ones from the canopy on the street, and the spar would not even touch it, but that's not happenin' ladies.

I've been doing this job for more than 1 year, TV.

Fire hydrants are pretty tough. You won't be crushing it, what you would likely do is drive the hydrant down and break the elbow that sits about 4' underground. Unless you hit it dead on with a spar, you are unlikely to damage it.

 

[treemandan]

huh i am cofused , what????

He's talking about dropping a pole from the ground with a butt hitch so it doesn't get to far. I am sure you have done it, maybe to keep the trunk from rolling into a structure or something?

 

[treemandan]

Fire hydrants are pretty tough. You won't be crushing it, what you would likely do is drive the hydrant down and break the elbow that sits about 4' underground. Unless you hit it dead on with a spar, you are unlikely to damage it.

yeah, you won't break the hydrant, just the thousands of dollars below it. And Yes, FTA, Concrete busts up real easy. Ever seen anybody hit it with a hammer? What is with this guy?

 

[jefflovstrom]

I think you should of asked the question in a different way. I wonder what the responses would be if you asked, " Big removal and no chipper, how long to get it done?" You probably want to do it a day but if you cant, well?
Jeff
I am only assuming the chipper part.

 

[treevet]

Why not have Lovestrom buzz over on his scooter and assess the sichyashun?

He seems to know what he is doing ........


sometimes lol:monkey:

 

[TimberMcPherson]

Further along what? Look at the pole directly down the hill from the mammoth and 3 feet to the right in the direction the tree would be falling. I know sure as **** I'd be taking down the tree as easy as soaking my feet in an over sized, walk in oven, but this job site isn't going to be that easy.


The job can be screwed up in 3 ways. 1, drop the top, and nail the fancy light pole. 2, drop the spar, and roll/bounce straight away into the fancy light pole. 3, crush the fire hydrant. I could avoid the sidewalk by laying down some thick ones from the canopy on the street, and the spar would not even touch it, but that's not happenin' ladies.

I've been doing this job for more than 1 year, TV.

If you had really been doing THIS job for more than a year, youd already know the anwer to this question. We are proffessionals, your a cowboy who charges people and uses this website to sound knowledgable to your victims/clients.

Go work for a reputable company, learn from guys who know what they are doing in real life, then use this knowledge and skill to build a reputable company which has a longer future than that point in time where you get out of your depth (your already there alot mate) and get yourself or someone else badly hurt.
Until then, youtube your work, you will able to search your name on the net and forever say "you know, although its clear by this video whats going to happen, at the time I was sure I knew what I was doing, man I wish I could still walk."

 

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[treevet]

Question FTA.....Were you the instigator in the tree being removed? Did you have input to the client as to the tree being unsafe or injurous to property? What appears to be a very healthy and attractive pine will change the character of that n'borhood when erased.

You likely will get some negative press rather than more work when yanking that one. We have people yell at us when we are removing dead trees (after the foliage is stripped) all the time and just happened 3 days ago.

 

[prentice110]

Here we go.

if im looking at this right, why dont you notch and drop that thing in the street? seems to me like you wasted some time, but pics dont tell all. i woulda dropped that sucka and been on my merry way.

 

[prentice110]

I dropped a 30" Maple spar, maybe a 15' spar on two logs in an ultra tight drop zone earlier this year. It rolled forward like it was on wheels and went straight for the privacy fence stopping about 2 feet shy. The HO was standing there watching me and said "you couldn't have planned that any better". I just smiled as I wiped the bullets I had been sweating from my brow...

yeah, after your grapes turned to raisens. wink wink.

 

[prentice110]

Im done with this thread. best i can tell this shoulda been a clear the pole an drop. the thing is even leaning that way. If you cant make a drop like that, dont wonder why your getting under bid by others. dont wanna sound like a prick, just my 2 cents.......

 

[jefflovstrom]

Question FTA.....Were you the instigator in the tree being removed? Did you have input to the client as to the tree being unsafe or injurous to property? What appears to be a very healthy and attractive pine will change the character of that n'borhood when erased.

You likely will get some negative press rather than more work when yanking that one. We have people yell at us when we are removing dead trees (after the foliage is stripped) all the time and just happened 3 days ago.

He thinks it is a stone pine, it is a Torrey Pine. Even your average HO out here knows what a Torrey is.
Jeff