How much wood can be dropped on concrete without breaking it?

[jefflovstrom]

Did he get a permit to remove said "Torrey Pine"? One of the rarest Pinus in the world and apparently one of the trickiest to remove.

No prermit needed for private property.
Jeff

 

[treeslayer]

No prermit needed for private property.
Jeff

WRONG.

HOA covenants are signed at closing and become obligatory for compliance.

Fords Colony in Wmsbg. VA requires pruning permits as well for all HO's.
A gated golf course community.

 

[rbtree]

Those "screwy tops" should have been your tower and high T.I.P . I assume you can only climb with a flip line, which is part of the reason this is going to be two day removal for ya. Even if I only had a ford ranger and a crew of midgets this tree wouldn't take me longer then five hours to remove.

Correct, Drew...No way should those tops have been wrestled out over the remaining canopy.

Either cut and toss small branches (or portions of branches) or set a redirect out over a better drop zone to lower/swing larger stuff easily. Or use some advanced speed line techniques to put brush down quickly.

Likely, the tree isn't the slam dunk some have made it out to be. (Too much armchair quarterbacking here, based on two photos that really showed very little) But it still appears relatively easy. I agree, 5 hours total to get the tree on the ground. Two ground people needed, however.

 

[treevet]

Correct, Drew...No way should those tops have been wrestled out over the remaining canopy.

Either cut and toss small branches (or portions of branches) or set a redirect out over a better drop zone to lower/swing larger stuff easily. Or use some advanced speed line techniques to put brush down quickly.

Likely, the tree isn't the slam dunk some have made it out to be. (Too much armchair quarterbacking here, based on two photos that really showed very little) But it still appears relatively easy. I agree, 5 hours total to get the tree on the ground. Two ground people needed, however.

Hi Rog,

Drive up with bucket and crane....2 picks (I own crane and couple of buckets)...set em down on 18' flat dump and shave em and run brush thru the chipper. 2nd cut a flush cut at ground. 2 men x hrs.

Drive the 2 logs 2 miles and dump em in a factory lot for their furnace.

Smoke em if ya got em. cya

 

[jefflovstrom]

WRONG.

HOA covenants are signed at closing and become obligatory for compliance.

Fords Colony in Wmsbg. VA requires pruning permits as well for all HO's.
A gated golf course community.

Who said it was an HOA? We have removed several Torrey pines this year alone.
Jeff

 

[lumberjack333]

Wait for the right wind, then scream through your back cut and drop it in the cul-de-sac. Make sure you have a big saw, sharp too.
:greenchainsaw::chainsawguy:

 

[deevo]

Wait for the right wind, then scream through your back cut and drop it in the cul-de-sac. Make sure you have a big saw, sharp too.
:greenchainsaw::chainsawguy:

Holy crap, this thing isn't down yet?

 

[treemandan]

Wait for the right wind, then scream through your back cut and drop it in the cul-de-sac. Make sure you have a big saw, sharp too.
:greenchainsaw::chainsawguy:

Very tempting.

 

[treemandan]

Correct, Drew...No way should those tops have been wrestled out over the remaining canopy.

Either cut and toss small branches (or portions of branches) or set a redirect out over a better drop zone to lower/swing larger stuff easily. Or use some advanced speed line techniques to put brush down quickly.

Likely, the tree isn't the slam dunk some have made it out to be. (Too much armchair quarterbacking here, based on two photos that really showed very little) But it still appears relatively easy. I agree, 5 hours total to get the tree on the ground.




Two ground people needed, however.

Oh Really?

 

[treemandan]

Yeah the pics suck FTA. And you spent how many hours doing what?

Well, don't let that stop ya but I don't think you are looking at this right. Maybe a little better now but be for real now; Do you really own a tree service? Ok, well at least that is settled so that's just that and its fine... I guess.
I am sure the local guys will take a liking to you. How much you got on this one?

 

[ropensaddle]

Man It does seem to be going pretty slow but every dog has his day I suppose. Anyway don't matter how slow it gets done as long as its safe.

 

[treemandan]

Man It does seem to be going pretty slow but every dog has his day I suppose. Anyway don't matter how slow it gets done as long as its safe.

And I am gonna have to call bull#### on that. Loook out!

 

[ropensaddle]

And I am gonna have to call bull#### on that. Loook out!

:monkey:

 

[fishercat]

seems to me............

FTA makes mountains out of mole hills.

I don't see what those tops and red arrows have to do with the price of tea.

 

[Bigus Termitius]

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

 

[fishercat]

seems it's obvious....................

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

it would be a hell of a lot more than FTA could chuck.

 

[Bigus Termitius]

it would be a hell of a lot more than FTA could chuck.

That seems to be the case, I just thought I might add an equally obscure question to give perspective on the original. Howbeit, it seems to have some merit of its own in light of the present timetable.

At least FTA has safety and avoiding property damage at the top of his mind, however short of knowledge. That's a good start, too many don't have that, though groin fluid abounds. A lot more knowledge and a bit more fluid, and he should be fine...someday.

LTX, you crack me up, I like your initial post, I was just waiting for someone to say it as I was reading along. This is a low brow question, no doubt, but at least he asked. Alot of guys would have just found out like tree md's EX-associates.

The best advice that I saw towards FTA was the one about taking a Saturday and the time to put on a show for the neighborhood. Just don't screw up and don't put them to sleep over a four day period.

Alot of times I think the use of our knowledge and abilities frighten HOs, maybe even away. I did a bunch of ROW removals yesterday in a backyard ladened with power lines. The HO watched, but was terrified. What was routine, and relatively safe to me, looked reckless to them.

Some neighborhoods, I might just drop, chip, load and go.

In a ritzy one, I'll often take the extra time, charge for it, and look responsible. They tend to like and will pay for the conservative approach.

Depends on how much common sense per capita, and to a certain extent, how much money. There seems to be a correlation there, but I digress, that is not always the case.

Nevertheless, always safety first.

 

[treevet]

(quote: 2 ground men needed)

Oh Really?

1 is operating the camera

 

[TreeTarget]

Those "screwy tops" should have been your tower and high T.I.P . I assume you can only climb with a flip line, which is part of the reason this is going to be two day removal for ya. Even if I only had a ford ranger and a crew of midgets this tree wouldn't take me longer then five hours to remove.

Definately have to agree with you about the time to get the tree down, but have to ask what you have against us little people and our choice of pickups? You might be jealous of our ability to fit our entire families in said conveyance, but that does not give you the right to use us as comedic-gimmicks to get your point across--we're in the same business, you know...For your example, you couldn't have used, "monkeys," or "Palin followers" instead?

The boss would have loved the climb in this one. Seeing that those tops are missing at the wrong time, and I don't do the climbing/dropping, actually makes me feel good. Either I have been paying WAY too much attention at work, or that five minutes I spent skimming the Tree Climber's Companion REALLY paid off.
Have to ask though, if there was a saw involved in any of those "cuts" the arrows refer to. Looks like they were broken off with a logging chain and a tank, rather than cut prematurely.
Again though, I apologise as I am not a professional camera-person either, and really never climb, since I'm only a dwarf on the ground. It's just that getting to the short of it is one of the key things they teach us in the lolly-pop guild.

 

[tree md]

I've got to tell you, my style of climbing is to take whole leaders like that. Even when I am in an ultra tight drop zone I rope big pieces and let my guys cut it up as it's lowered. Really works out well for me. I use 3/4 bull line and there is not much that rope will not handle. If you have one man lower it and put the breaks on the piece before it contacts the ground that eliminates any chance of pinching the saw or having any tension whatsoever on the limbs/logs as you cut. Have one man lower, one man cut and one man clear the limbs and chunks out as it comes down. That has worked really well for me for years now. Of course, you need to have the forethought and capability of swinging big leaders and pieces without killing yourself but they come down really fast like that.

Really, you could drop it in the street but that would be cowboy style. Take your time, do it right and make it look good. You will likely get more work out of it that way. And as has been mentioned, safety is priority number one, not time.