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LarryTheCableGuy said:
"Out here" Now that right there is funny. I'm glad that you make sure that everything is "up to spec".

Where do the "specs" come from?

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Uh, where they always come from on a jobsite....that being the set of plans (which seems to be a nationwide practice, larry). You have heard of plans, haven't you larry? They're the things that architects come up with.... Oh, I get it...they're not in crayon so you're not interested.

Jeez Louise.
 
Sap, ole chain saw guru;

You still haven't answered my question on the 455 you bought for "ranch use".

What exactly are the job requirements of a "ranch saw", as opposed to other saws, and what features are there on your's that make it different from ordinary saws, and therefore suited for "ranch use"?
 
LarryTheCableGuy said:
First, it ain't "cement", it's "concrete". "Cement" is mixed with sand to make mortar or mixed with sand and gravel (fine aggrgate and coarse aggregate) to make CONCRETE. There is no such thing as a "cement" driveway or sidewalk. Got that much so far?

Now, CONCRETE is not "poured", it is "placed". Now I suppose if you fancy yourself as a jack of all trades and master of NONE, you can go "pour" all the "cement" slabs that you want.


:buttkick:

Dam(SIC) you thats my line.

Fred
 
spike60 said:
Sap, ole chain saw guru;

You still haven't answered my question on the 455 you bought for "ranch use".

What exactly are the job requirements of a "ranch saw", as opposed to other saws, and what features are there on your's that make it different from ordinary saws, and therefore suited for "ranch use"?

Stihl also makes a 'ranch' or 'farm' saw. You're the smart guy, you figure it out.
 
Rancher's and Farmer's have Sthils and Huskys??

All of the rancher's and farmer's I know are pretty cheap when it comes to power tools. I think most of them opt for that $89.99 saw down at Wallyworld.
 
coveredinsap said:
Stihl also makes a 'ranch' or 'farm' saw. You're the smart guy, you figure it out.


Sap, you're missing the point, dude, as usual. Spike or any other dealer most likely know what the farm or rancher saws stands for. He's only trying to figure out what the guru of all chainsaws comes up with when this one is making his usual "know it all" point.

Not much, as usual.:welcome:
 
coveredinsap said:
Stihl also makes a 'ranch' or 'farm' saw. You're the smart guy, you figure it out.


It would be nice if you could get something correct, even once.

Now you have been suckered by a 25 year old marketing campain... The term "farm boss" is meaningless today, just like your posts.
 
coveredinsap said:
And no, I'm not a 'jack of all trades'. I'm a carpenter.
Out here, the lead carpenter runs the jobsite, and is responsible for all the trade's work being done to spec. The carpenter inspects everyone's work before the inspector, and the carpenter is responsible for getting the job thru inspections. That means you have to know what you're looking at, and that means knowing how to do it yourself.



Now.... around here, that is called the G.C. (Gernral Contractor for you) HE is in charge of EVERYTHING, everyone reports to him and he has the final say!! I have never been on a jobsite where the "lead" carpenter was in charge, unless it was a job that I bid and therefore I was the G.C. But Cali. always has been a little backwards.
Andy
 
Poser Alert!!!

coveredinsap said:
Uh, where they always come from on a jobsite....that being the set of plans (which seems to be a nationwide practice, larry). You have heard of plans, haven't you larry? They're the things that architects come up with.... Oh, I get it...they're not in crayon so you're not interested.

Jeez Louise.


Jeez Louise, I mean Mike

Architects don't establish "specs" and the question was: "Where do the "specs" come from?"

Out-Here, Architects don't have final say on a set of plans, Stan! And Specs dont "come from" them. They just draw things to them,(specs) go back to gnawing your crayons!

Now don't get me wrong, unlike yourself, I do not know everything, but I do know a wrong awnser when I see one!
 
romeo said:
All of the rancher's and farmer's I know are pretty cheap when it comes to power tools. I think most of them opt for that $89.99 saw down at Wallyworld.

HAHAHAHA

You might be on to something.

The FIL is a rancher and he only uses 2-288s or his 385. Maybe Husq Will wise up and make them rancher saws.

HAHHAHAHHA

Fred
 
coveredinsap said:
Uh, where they always come from on a jobsite....that being the set of plans (which seems to be a nationwide practice, larry). You have heard of plans, haven't you larry? They're the things that architects come up with.... Oh, I get it...they're not in crayon so you're not interested.

Jeez Louise.
PERFECT Sapster! That's just the invite that I was fishin' for!

Let me tell you a few things Mr. Lead (as in Pb) Carpenter. First, my name ain't Larry and I'm not a cable installer. No Mike, I'm an architect. Been licensed as such by the State of California since 1991.

Yep, licensed by the state to design, do the structural calculations and "specs" (by the way Mr. Happy, it's called a Project Manual, not "specs")...Responsible for the overall design and the smallest details. Yep, the buck stops with me.

Now we are aware of just how much you really know about construction.

"Cement" Laughing my freaking a$$ off.
 
LarryTheCableGuy said:
PERFECT Sapster! That's just the invite that I was fishin' for!

Let me tell you a few things Mr. Lead (as in Pb) Carpenter. First, my name ain't Larry and I'm not a cable installer. No Mike, I'm an architect. Been licensed as such by the State of California since 1991.

Yep, licensed by the state to design, do the structural calculations and "specs" (by the way Mr. Happy, it's called a Project Manual, not "specs")...Responsible for the overall design and the smallest details. Yep, the buck stops with me.

Now we are aware of just how much you really know about construction.

"Cement" Laughing my freaking a$$ off.

Hey Larry does (Pb) mean pecker brain by chance? I only ask because unlike ma frend Sap I don't know everything, I admit it. Sap if your reading this take a hint from me, your bestest frend, stop talking like you know everything and you won't get caught up in traps like Larry just got you in. I mean hell I seen him setting you up and durn if ya didn't fall for it. Sap sometimes its best to just admit you don't know when what, yup, you got it, when you don't know. Now get up and shake it off and wise up alittle. Your still my buddy even if Larry did beat you up alittle bit there. The knot on ya head will go down and that black eye will clear up, you'll be ok. I only tell you this because why, yup, you got it, cause you my Frend.
 
LarryTheCableGuy said:
PERFECT Sapster! That's just the invite that I was fishin' for!

Let me tell you a few things Mr. Lead (as in Pb) Carpenter. First, my name ain't Larry and I'm not a cable installer. No Mike, I'm an architect. Been licensed as such by the State of California since 1991.

Yep, licensed by the state to design, do the structural calculations and "specs" (by the way Mr. Happy, it's called a Project Manual, not "specs")...Responsible for the overall design and the smallest details. Yep, the buck stops with me.

Now we are aware of just how much you really know about construction.

"Cement" Laughing my freaking a$$ off.

True story:

I had a jobsite set of plans some years ago that were inverted. When I told the architect about them he told me I was wrong.... they weren't inverted, the plans were correct. I physically pointed out to him how the plans were in fact backwards, and he told me that no, they were right....but in order to read them I was supposed to hold them over my head and look up at them from below. Was that architect any chance you that drew those plans?

The moral of the story is, if I had a dollar for every error I had to correct on architectural drawings that I've worked off of, I'd have a nice nest egg.

The 2nd moral of the story is ...never trust an architect.

Still laughing now?
 
larrythecableguy said:
Yep, licensed by the state to design, do the structural calculations and "specs" (by the way Mr. Happy, it's called a Project Manual, not "specs")...Responsible for the overall design and the smallest details. Yep, the buck stops with me.

By the way, the engineer is responsible for the "structural calculations". You personally have an engineer's stamp with your name on it?

Project Manual? You can call it a lollipop if you like. On the plans they are known as 'specifications'.

It's a scary thought that maybe the "buck stops" with larrythecableguy and Git-R-Dun Architects, Inc.
 
coveredinsap said:
True story:

I had a jobsite set of plans some years ago that were inverted. When I told the architect about them he told me I was wrong.... they weren't inverted, the plans were correct. I physically pointed out to him how the plans were in fact backwards, and he told me that no, they were right....but in order to read them I was supposed to hold them over my head and look up at them from below. Was that architect any chance you that drew those plans?

The moral of the story is, if I had a dollar for every error I had to correct on architectural drawings that I've worked off of, I'd have a nice nest egg.

The 2nd moral of the story is ...never trust an architect.

Still laughing now?

That Architect took one look at you and wanted to make sure you built the basement first!

"he told me that no, they were right....but in order to read them I was supposed to hold them over my head and look up at them from below."

Kevin
 
Coming from someone that doesn't know the difference between concrete and cement...yes, I am.

As an architect, I make the directions, otherwise known as a leader. We have to make them simple enough for you to follow. As a carpenter, you follow the directions.

Yes, architects do make errors, just like every other human. We also have to solve the problems caused by others out in the field.

It's not uncommon to come across folks like you, those that will never rise above the level of following someone else's directions and therefore try to be know-it-alls.

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You didn't answer the question, Larry. You personally have an engineer's stamp with your name on it?

Leader???? Don't make me laugh. You sit in an office all day and show up on the jobsite for 10 minutes a few times a month. More if I'm unlucky enough. Stick to the desk, larry, it's where you belong.

'leader'....Bwahahahahahahaha!
 
coveredinsap said:
By the way, the engineer is responsible for the "structural calculations". You personally have an engineer's stamp with your name on it?
Sap, you IDIOT. You will argue with ANYTHING, won't you?

Lookie here: http://www.cab.ca.gov/pdf/design_limit.pdf

Like I said, I am licensed by the State of California to do the structural calculations on any building other than a hospital.

:buttkick:
 
Make it Snappy Sappy!

Whatsa matter...finding that you are wrong again?

Do YOU have a contractor's license or are you just an employee?

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Know it all tradesmen.

Some of these posts beg for comment.

sap you argueing with an archiect sounds all too familiar. I hear machinists talk all the time behind the backs of engineers about how "they'" (the engineers don't know anything.
particularly after an error has been made. Typically after asking loaded questions or trying to sharpshoot the engineers.
usually it's laughable, I've noticed it's either the machine "operators" or the old school machinists that have only been around forever, but have neglected to update their skills, and keep up with the times. These guys seem to have to try and assert themselves with the engineers.
Argue all they like. At the end of the day the Engineer is still the engineer. Or in this instance, the artichect.
"Just showing up" to work everyday for years on end doesn't make one an expert. Updating your skills through experience and continuing education, would be the better plan.
My point is....The machinists that I've seen that REALLY are awesome machinists, aren't trying to win little arguements with engineers. What caught my eye about this post, other than your celebrity stutus.:)
was the blueprint arguement. That's usually the subject matter of the machinist/engineer arguements. As if the only arena that these lesser machinist can display their trade knowledge is to start an agruement and try to proudly display their blueprint reading prowess. It's quite comical, and so was this arguement.
You rock! Sap.
Thanks.:biggrinbounce2:
What other furums do you frequent? We might all start following you around like deadheads did for the greatful dead.
Take care, man.
Mitch
 
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