millbilly
ArboristSite Guru
I ask a simple question, who long did it take to get the kit once it was shipped and I get no answers. Makes me wonder how much of this thread is BS.
Huztl/Garden Tools China Replacement Piston and Cylinder Kit, PICS!
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WillnStihl
ArboristSite Lurker
If you look at their auction it says "7 - 15 days to USA,UK,AUSTRALIA. 18 - 35 business days to other countries(Please kindly note it before you order, The Post Air Mail is not fast, Please be patient with it after placing your orders, Please bid it only if you can agree with it ,thanks for your kind cooperation, if you need the goods very urgently,please contact us firstly for the delivery details )". I'll post back when I receive mine and let you know.
millbilly
ArboristSite Guru
I know what the add says. After I ordered the kit, the delivery time radically changed. I ordered on June 28 and my expected delivery date was between July 18th. and August 4th. I was just wondering how long it took these other guys to get their kits. Since I got no replies I became skeptical if any of these poster actually ordered the kits or were just repeating hearsay.
I bet they say that so when you get it sooner, you're happy it came 'early', typical tactic of many retailers...
Yup, you're definitely a skeptic.
I got a 272 kit from them a month or so ago, can't really recall how long shipping took, other than that it wasn't an issue that I noticed.
Do I need to post pics of it? I can...:msp_rolleyes:
WillnStihl
ArboristSite Lurker
Yeah the expected delivery date on eBay is more of an estimate than anything. 9 times out of 10 I usually get items earlier than that. How happy would you be if they gave you an expected date and it came way after that? Lot more sense to say it may take 3 weeks and then you receive it early.
Wow! Seriously, man?:msp_blink:
If you want real world numbers, I've made two orders to them recently and the first one took a little over two weeks and the last one I got in about 10 days....When you're dealing with customs, etc., it's never consistent....Regardless I get stuff out of Hong Kong as fast or faster as I do from the USA to Canada, so go figure.
I ordered a clutch cover from them. If I remember correctly it came within the shipping time they described. The first one was packaged very poorly and broken. I complained thinking I would be SOL. They responded very quickly and sent out a new one. It was also packaged very poorly but not broken this time. I bought a new handle for the broken clutch cover from the dealer, it ended up being the same price as the Chinese clutch cover assembly after the new handle. BTW it was an identical copy, even with the original Husky part #'s cast into the piece. Not enough use yet to determine if it is durable. I also bought one of their smorgasborg kits that comes with all kinds of parts. None of them really have too much to them. We are talking recoil spools, felling dogs, intake parts, gaskets ect. I needed a few parts and it was the same price as buying a few of the parts from a dealer so I figured what the hell. I ended up using more of them than I thought and have more to go. I think I will go to the dealer in the future to get my parts though. I don't really feel right about buying stuff from China, but it does depend on the item, application and price difference.
I see they have carbs too. Has anyone bought one of these copycat carbs?
I kinda feel the same way about buying too much chinese stuff but when I see the zama or walbro
that I want to replace one one of my husqvarna or stihl saws is made in china anyway...
I picked up a 272 carb from another chinese supplier to go with a 61/272 conversion, works fine, so far.
Just ordered a couple more to put on a couple more conversions, one with a hutzl kit and the other cyl is oem.
Also need a zama for an 036 and a couple hda 199's, may go that route on those too if I can find 'em.
Looks Good to Me
The one I bought last year from Stihl for an MS660 cost about $160 and gave up in about 70 hours of use. :bang:
millbilly
ArboristSite Guru
got my kit today
I guess you guys know I was a little demanding sorry if I ruffled any feathers. That being said I got my husky 575 jug, piston, gasket, rings and the other things needed to rebuild. I was a little surprised how it was packaged, poorly. Any way, one of the piston rings was in two pieces not a good thing and two of the gaskets were ripped, not real happy about that either,
You might wonder how long it took to get delivered from China? I placed the order on June 28th. and I received it on July 12th. 14 days not to bad.
In closing, I have e-mailed them with my complaint waiting on a reply.
I might just buy an oem ring, I'm not sure how the customer will feel about waiting 3 more weeks.
I guess you guys know I was a little demanding sorry if I ruffled any feathers. That being said I got my husky 575 jug, piston, gasket, rings and the other things needed to rebuild. I was a little surprised how it was packaged, poorly. Any way, one of the piston rings was in two pieces not a good thing and two of the gaskets were ripped, not real happy about that either,
You might wonder how long it took to get delivered from China? I placed the order on June 28th. and I received it on July 12th. 14 days not to bad.
In closing, I have e-mailed them with my complaint waiting on a reply.
I might just buy an oem ring, I'm not sure how the customer will feel about waiting 3 more weeks.
Nobody is Perfect
Mail order is just that--mail order. You live by the discount sword and die by it. The first cylinder kit I ever bought was an NWP big bore that was missing the threads for the muffler screws. The holes were there but the threads were never tapped. So, I tapped the threads myself and the engine runs fine today. One has to wonder how many of those were shipped out undetected.
One of my piston kits was missing the snap rings. Luckily, I had saved the ones that I removed from the old piston. Things like this happen. Some Stihl dealers have also told me some horror stories abut OEM parts, so the after market folks are not alone.
Mail order is just that--mail order. You live by the discount sword and die by it. The first cylinder kit I ever bought was an NWP big bore that was missing the threads for the muffler screws. The holes were there but the threads were never tapped. So, I tapped the threads myself and the engine runs fine today. One has to wonder how many of those were shipped out undetected.
One of my piston kits was missing the snap rings. Luckily, I had saved the ones that I removed from the old piston. Things like this happen. Some Stihl dealers have also told me some horror stories abut OEM parts, so the after market folks are not alone.
terry2tmd
ArboristSite Operative
I built a 372 using one of the full kits, I used it all piston, ring, cylinder, main bearings & seals then I went and trashed on this saw. It has become one of my favorites, I would and do endorse these kits. So far I have rebuilt at least five saws using these kits, yeah there is the ocassional small problem rough castings, untapped screw holes, but I have seen way worse aftermarket stuff, when you get the entire kit for about what a OEM piston and cylinder why not. Buy it run it til it blows(which might be a while) and build it again, my saws are money saws, I run them hard, and the above mentioned 372 runs like a 372 should, it takes a beating and comes back asking for more. Great price good parts, for the price what do you want?
I agree, primarily because no saw that I have fixed or saved with mail order parts has yet to quit on me or any of my customers. I also know how to tap threads now and then.
gn
It's interesting to see that some people have used these Chinese kits (A few of them) and had good success and yet there have been lots of others that had catastrophic failures almost out of the box, especially the big bore kits.....Must be a few different factories turning out varying quality?
It's interesting to see that some people have used these Chinese kits (A few of them) and had good success and yet there have been lots of others that had catastrophic failures almost out of the box, especially the big bore kits.....Must be a few different factories turning out varying quality?
Precisely. I just ran into another beauty today. The factory that built a Troy-Built riding mower installed a wrong idler pulley on the assembly line in year 2000. The ball bearings burned out, and the mower went down this past June. All of the idler pulley's ball bearings collapsed and disintegrated while in use.
The engineers supplied the correct parts diagram, but the assembly line cheated when the mower was being built. The customer who paid for the mower was the eventual loser.
I purchased the same kit a couple of months ago. Put it together and so far everything runs fine with minimal run time. the only problem was that the hole for the decomp was tapped in the wrong spot and the top cover wouldn't fit with it installed, so I had to install a plug.
Shucks, the top cover is just cheap plastic these days. Why not just drill or enlarge the clearance hole into the top cover and use the decomp valve rather than plug it up? Decomp valves save my right arm and shoulder.
huztl
I just received and installed a carb from them (someone asked). it appears to be a real Zama from China. Smelled like fuel upon opening, but appeared new. I assume they tested it with real fuel? otherwise, maybe someone returned it after trying it?
anyway, bolted on to MS260 pro perfectly. Started from dead cold and idled perfectly as expected. Was way rich on the high end so leaned out by turning the red limiter cap. All the way clockwise is not enough...still slightly rich. I am at 5300 ft. msl so not really a surprise.
I'll probably have to bust out the cap to get it lean enough. I informed Zama USA about this, just in case they are really trying to manufacture these close enough to install and tune without having to fuss with the limiter cap.
overall, I am perfectly happy and would buy again.
also, perhaps interesting: this carb has the intelli port to the air filter. I would assume this is s 'stihl part only' and 'not available except from the Nazis' but it came from china and appears to be a real Zama.
I just received and installed a carb from them (someone asked). it appears to be a real Zama from China. Smelled like fuel upon opening, but appeared new. I assume they tested it with real fuel? otherwise, maybe someone returned it after trying it?
anyway, bolted on to MS260 pro perfectly. Started from dead cold and idled perfectly as expected. Was way rich on the high end so leaned out by turning the red limiter cap. All the way clockwise is not enough...still slightly rich. I am at 5300 ft. msl so not really a surprise.
I'll probably have to bust out the cap to get it lean enough. I informed Zama USA about this, just in case they are really trying to manufacture these close enough to install and tune without having to fuss with the limiter cap.
overall, I am perfectly happy and would buy again.
also, perhaps interesting: this carb has the intelli port to the air filter. I would assume this is s 'stihl part only' and 'not available except from the Nazis' but it came from china and appears to be a real Zama.
millbilly
ArboristSite Guru
I'm not going to talk about huztl. The less people that know the better. I've been using them for 3 months now and have had great results. Great communication and the parts usually arrive in less than 2 weeks here in the states.
Its nothing but cheap, knock off, Chinese parts. Remember how harbor freight got trashed, I would bet almost everyone in here has something from harbor freight.
Its nothing but cheap, knock off, Chinese parts. Remember how harbor freight got trashed, I would bet almost everyone in here has something from harbor freight.
That's good news. My only concern was where do you get a replacement kit if it needs to be rebuilt. I guess if it is a total knockoff of Zama or even the manufacturer for Zama, I guess that clears that issue up. It would be interesting if someone rebuilt a Hutzl carb with a Zama kit to see what would happen.
