I call B.S. on Stihl. My dyno doesn't lie. MS 461 is king over MS 660

[DexterDay]

And my 066 beats my 088


In small wood! Throw the big bars on and see if a 441 will beat a 660

That was a 24" Cant... I don't call 24" wood "small" wood. At least around here anyways

 

[MCW]

That was a 24" Cant... I don't call 24" wood "small" wood. At least around here anyways

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Are you talking stock saws or modified? If a stock 441 can beat a stock 660 in a 24" cant then you need to lean on the 660 a bit more
Sometimes the extra torque of the larger saws needs to be muscled a bit to be noticed.

 

[Brush Ape]

All your MS660's nothing but junk. Send 'em to Brush Ape for proper disposal. Send your paychecks too.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

they have a purpose either in big wood or a door stop a 441 would be big enough for my firewood needs ms660 seems overkill to me unless you got some monsters you are cutting.

 

[Deets066]

24" bar is 70cc territory all day

 

[KG441c]

Do u think a ported 362c will pull a 24" b/c?

 

[MCW]

they have a purpose either in big wood or a door stop a 441 would be big enough for my firewood needs ms660 seems overkill to me unless you got some monsters you are cutting.

You'll also need to carry triple the fuel to run a 660 over a 441

 

[DexterDay]

24" bar is 70cc territory all day

That's a 28" bar barely peeking out of that Cant.

A 28" ES Light is only 26" after the Dawgs


Yes. A ported 460 and 441 took a 660's lunch money..

 

[Deets066]

Never ran that peticular model, but have run an 039 and 036 with 24" bars stock. Worked fine, but now that I have many other larger saws I only run 20" on 60cc saws.

 

[Deets066]

That's a 28" bar barely peeking out of that Cant.

A 28" ES Light is only 26" after the Dawgs


Yes. A ported 460 and 441 took a 660's lunch money..

Yeah I don't doubt it a bit, especially if mastermind built them. But, like I said before drop them in some big wood and the 660 will shine. Will a 441 even oil a 42" bar? I doubt it.

 

[Mastermind]

Yeah I don't doubt it a bit, especially if mastermind built them. But, like I said before drop them in some big wood and the 660 will shine. Will a 441 even oil a 42" bar? I doubt it.

A 660 don't oil a 42" very well. I mod the oil pumps too.

 

[treesmith]

I'm looking forward to putting your 461 against your 660, Randy

 

[DexterDay]

A 660 don't oil a 42" very well. I mod the oil pumps too.

 

[MCW]

Yes. A ported 460 and 441 took a 660's lunch money..

If a ported 70cc saw can't beat a stock 660 then you'd want your money back from the porter
It's not exactly a secret that this occurs in the saw world.

 

[MCW]

A 660 don't oil a 42" very well. I mod the oil pumps too.

HO oiler keeps up but that isn't fitted standard to most US 660's.

 

[cgraham1]

You could delete and redelete till your fingers fall off. You will still get the same end results.

Or you could just use "ignore" for the people you don't want to hear from. I currently use it on two members and it makes threads so much more pleasurable for me to follow.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

stihl should have use a manual oiler override like echo did on there larger saws, a little extra oil will not hurt especially in hard seasoned wood.

 

[singinwoodwackr]

HO oiler keeps up but that isn't fitted standard to most US 660's.

yup, my 066 with the HO oiler puts out more than needed with a 36" bar...haven't been able to try the 42 yet

 

[Haywire Haywood]

How's the 395s stock oiler?

Ian

 

[MCW]

How's the 395s stock oiler?

Ian

Awesome. Husky have kept the outputs of their oilers right at the pointy end. They'll oil a 42" bar easily. Not sure what they'd be maxxed out at but it's certainly more than 42".