I call B.S. on Stihl. My dyno doesn't lie. MS 461 is king over MS 660

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I wouldn't want to mill with a 461 with over a 28" bar over a 660. I've got some limited run time on a 461 and a good bit on a 660. For blocking firewood I'm sure a 660 will win with it's cc advantage. I don't mine the 088 when I'm just blocking wood in a pile or bucking a tree trunk. If I've got to do much walking around and reaching with it then I want something else.
 
Hey don't think I'm a 660 or Stihl fan boy either. I hate the balance and fuel consumption of the 660's which is why I run 7900's and 390XP's now for falling. I'm simply saying that guys I've spoken to who use these saws (stock) to make a living have continued to use their 660's after buying 461's. These guys aren't on AS, aren't biased between models, and don't have any weird fetish for 660's like many members here :)

I would love to know the output on a ported 461 compared to the stock 660. I was told by a top porter that a properly ported 461 would smoke a stock 660

It's easy to get a ported 70cc saw to smoke a stock 660. Not hard at all. My ported and pop upped 7900 will thump a stock 660 everywhere.
 

check what i posted, then you can use any online calculator to verify what i posted.

Torque Conversion Chart Metric to English

Newton Meters (N-m) = Foot Pounds (ft. lbs.)
1 = 0.7
2 = 1.5
3 = 2.2
4 = 3.0
5 = 3.7
6 = 4.4
7 = 5.2
8 = 5.9
9 = 6.6

check your messages. trying to help you.

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check what i posted, then you can use any online calculator to verify what i posted.

Torque Conversion Chart Metric to English

Newton Meters (N-m) = Foot Pounds (ft. lbs.)
1 = 0.7
2 = 1.5
3 = 2.2
4 = 3.0
5 = 3.7
6 = 4.4
7 = 5.2
8 = 5.9
9 = 6.6

check your messages. trying to help you.

-omb
 
I think the dual port muffler (and perhaps some other changes) may be a good part of the difference in this debate. When I put a dual port and low restriction air filter on my 044 it made a very noticeable difference.

I think the US version of the 660 is likely built for torque and long bars, not for speed.

That said, I got to pull the trigger on some ported 660s at the Upstate GTG and they were absolute animals.
 
Hey don't think I'm a 660 or Stihl fan boy either. I hate the balance and fuel consumption of the 660's which is why I run 7900's and 390XP's now for falling. I'm simply saying that guys I've spoken to who use these saws (stock) to make a living have continued to use their 660's after buying 461's. These guys aren't on AS, aren't biased between models, and don't have any weird fetish for 660's like many members here :)



It's easy to get a ported 70cc saw to smoke a stock 660. Not hard at all. My ported and pop upped 7900 will thump a stock 660 everywhere.

Fetish that is a good one.
 
Fetish that is a good one.

Heh heh. It's true though. I've heard so many guys over the years say that the 660 is the best saw they've ever used. Dig a little deeper and you find they've only used 2 saws in their life and one was a Poulan :)
 
Id.like a 660 but think ill stick to my 461 and gwt it ported and my ported 362c and just bought this 026 last night for $40 that im goin through20140530_215405.jpg
 
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