I Need New Paint Job On The Topkick

[juststumps]

Maaco deffinetly isn't the best Co. out there, but for a commercial truck they'd prolly be OK. White does hide alot more defects than say black, blue etc. If they don't primer it, it'll last a couple years then start peeling off in sheets. Plus the first time a branch hits it the paint will peel. Base coat/clearcoat looks better, holds up better etc. but the price is WAY more too. Single stage is good for commercial apps. for people who want it to look good but not great. $1500 bucks is cheap but you get what you pay for. If they were usng accual commercial single stage paint, then you probably wound't have to primer it (with accual commercial paint you can paint over grease, oil....just about anything) but normal single stage you'll want to make sure that they prime it first. And not just the door jams and high wear areas but the whole truck.

what he said... our shop guys paint chippers and trucks this way....... scrape loose rust,,,, sand rust, scruff everything with an orbital air sander,, blow off dust with the compressor... shoot paint with a hi grade 2 part equipment paint.(epoxy base + hardener )..you get a good 2 part paint,, a little prep,,, it'll stick to anything....last a long time..gloss finish,, one coat,, about $200 per gallon...

if you have the time,,, you could have a kick ass paint job ,, doing it you self,,, for a lot less..... ( remember, it's a chip truck,, not a 67 corvette )

 

[masterarbor]

well new development on the truck painting front. i have had a bunch of stuff welded recently he's done a great job, very thorough. now he's chomping at the bit to paint my truck for me. it's tempting...let me explain.

he says that maaco will not even touch the prep that he plans to do. he says that most of the job is in the prep and not the spray and that is where he wants to spend his time. he says he'll sand all the rust to metal and scuff the whole truck with an orbital sander and do an inriacate job masking it of as well as fiberglass a few cracks in the hood. in addition, i get to inspect the prep before he shoots it. also, he says he'll use professional series sherwin williams paint, which he says is of a much higher quality than maaco's. he'll need the right weather because his shop is too full of cars on blocks right now and that might be hard timing here in ohio. whereas maaco guarentees it will be done in 3-5 days. he's giving me a 3 yr. warranty, but i'm not so sure he'll be around if i need him as he is in a new partnership situation and is young. maaco has a 4 yr. warranty and i now they'll be around.

maaco is charging $1,550.00
collin is charging $1,200.00

it's still slow here in ohio and i'm a little over budget on the new truck. decisions, decisions...

any opinions?

 

[BC WetCoast]

well new development on the truck painting front. i have had a bunch of stuff welded recently he's done a great job, very thorough. now he's chomping at the bit to paint my truck for me. it's tempting...let me explain.

he says that maaco will not even touch the prep that he plans to do. he says that most of the job is in the prep and not the spray and that is where he wants to spend his time. he says he'll sand all the rust to metal and scuff the whole truck with an orbital sander and do an inriacate job masking it of as well as fiberglass a few cracks in the hood. in addition, i get to inspect the prep before he shoots it. also, he says he'll use professional series sherwin williams paint, which he says is of a much higher quality than maaco's. he'll need the right weather because his shop is too full of cars on blocks right now and that might be hard timing here in ohio. whereas maaco guarentees it will be done in 3-5 days. he's giving me a 3 yr. warranty, but i'm not so sure he'll be around if i need him as he is in a new partnership situation and is young. maaco has a 4 yr. warranty and i now they'll be around.

maaco is charging $1,550.00
collin is charging $1,200.00

it's still slow here in ohio and i'm a little over budget on the new truck. decisions, decisions...

any opinions?

Sounds like a no brainer to me. Also with this kind of deal, if you wanted to upgrade the quality of paint (say to a 2 part epoxy), you can probably buy the paint yourself and have him shoot it.

How important is the warranty to you. To me, on a chip truck, not much. I'm pretty sure, that if you were to do a warranty claim in say 3.5 years, Maaco's goning to come back with the "look at all the wear and tear on the paint from hitting it with branches/chips/stones/mud etc etc". If you can see the prep job and are confident it won't peel in sheets then I wouldn't use the warranty in my decision making.

 

[masterarbor]

yeah, really good point BC. the only thing is that it's supposed to be rainy all week and who knows about the week after that! plus, does the temperature have to be at a certain degree? i'm kinda wanting to finish it up, so i'm feeling impatient. i guess i've got to decide if i'm feeling $350.00 extra impatient...

 

[CLEARVIEW TREE]

Bullet proof paint?

Wonder if that roll on bed liner stuff would look decent on the sides of a chip truck? Guaranteed to not flake! Rhino or linex would be nice, but pricey. Im told wal-mart carries a cheap do it your self kit for like 70.00. So like four kits may do the sides,rear and top of the chip box! If you need signage on it, decals are out but you may just rivet a sign up on the sides with your info.:rockn:

 

[TDunk]

I've always used Napa (Martin Senour) paints and have had very good luck. Correct me if i'm wrong but i think you can spray down to 50 degrees, your just going to have to have a faster drying reducer is all. They have this stuff called Trio-prime. It's eches,primes, and seels all in one. It's a bit pricey but it's a thick primer so it hides swirl marks, small scratches, etc..... but there again do you really want to dump that much money into a work truck. More often than not, someone that does paint work on the side will pay more attention to detail and take more pride in his work than a paint shop that is known for doing shady work. If your happy with the work he's done for you so far, then give him a shot. If it turns out cr@ppy, well leason learned. Like JustStumps said" it's a chip truck not a '67 corvette"

 

[Garfield]

Do it yourself if you have a place

We painted our bucket truck......not exactly a 67 corvettte. It had been orange then white a couple times then white again. We used Vansickle equipment paint oil based stuff bought by the gallon $30 i think. Shortened version is....
1. bondo
2. air board on bondo
3. orbital
4. Hardener purchased at O'Reilly's
5. Spray gun purchased at O'Reilly's (need big compressor to run one of these)
6. Charcoal mask
7. empty building
8. Spot prime with aerosol
9. 3-4 coats with a bright halogen light that a helper moves so you can see where you've been. (There will be random dirt and hair in the paint upon close inspection though not noticeable)
$6-700 plus labor if I remember right

 

[juststumps]

Wonder if that roll on bed liner stuff would look decent on the sides of a chip truck? Guaranteed to not flake! Rhino or linex would be nice, but pricey. Im told wal-mart carries a cheap do it your self kit for like 70.00. So like four kits may do the sides,rear and top of the chip box! If you need signage on it, decals are out but you may just rivet a sign up on the sides with your info.:rockn:

save your $70 !!!! a RHINO liner costs $450 for an 8 foot pickup bed,,,and takes 8 gallons of material......

two most important parts of a paint job,,,,

1:::REP

2::: PAINT QUALITY

it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to paint ,,, after a few times sanding out mistakes,, most people get the hang of it....

remember its a work truck,, getting banged around... not a show car...you want a paint that will take the abuse... auto paint won't cut it!!!!

MACO equals no prep and crap paint !!!! JMHO

 

[country boy]

To paint your truck for 1200 is dirt cheap. The single stage paints you have been informed about would be the way to go . They mostly consist of lacuer which is pretty much a thing of the past ,acrylic enamel and acrylic urethane. If you go with ppg paint they have a cheaper line wich is there omni ,mae is there enamel and mtk is there urethane. PPG also has a single stage paint called delstar wich is a very good paint. Dupont also has some good stuff you could go with there Centari single stage or if you wanted a very durable paint you could go with Imron good stuff . As far as the prep work goes the existing lettering can be a real pita not only do you have to get the old lettering off the paint under the lettering is a greater thickness of paint and if you paint over it the old lettering will ghost through, so you darn near got to sand er down to the factory primer where the lettering was and spray 2 or three coats of primer over it and block it out.