I'm ruined...

[B-Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, I still don't know why my wife married my ugly mug and how we made a cute li'l girl...must be from her side of the genes...:greenchainsaw:

Kevin

So now you are owned by Two (2) women instead of just one. That little one is a cutie!

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

As I remember it you were not just asking questions.........you were running your mouth about how your huskee was so much better, and how the american cls units were not built well.......even though they are very similar to timberwolf and other commercial splitters, yet half the price.

The only thing we were talking about here was vertical vs. horizontal.

American vs. Speeco vs. Timberwolf is a completely different subject, and no part of this discussion.

Can't you leave somebody else's thread alone? Grow up!

 

[KMB]

As I remember it you were not just asking questions.........you were running your mouth about how your huskee was so much better, and how the american cls units were not built well.......even though they are very similar to timberwolf and other commercial splitters, yet half the price.

Let's revisit some of your statements. These are regarding the American CLS splitters that a couple here had purchased:





And if you like vertical........more power to you, lots do. Any of the commercial firewood producers use horizontal with log lift though......what does that say? I have used both, and much prefer the horizontal with log lift. When you are splitting a large round, once you lay it down under the splitting ram it can be very difficult to wrestle it into position. Typically there are stubs or small plates sticking up from the foot of the splitter to keep it from sliding off the foot........these make it difficult to slide the round close to the beam. With the log lift, you just roll it on there, raise it up, and roll it right on over to where you want it. Split it in half, let the half closest to the lift fall back on the lift, then reposition the other half to be split again. Once it is in half, throw half of that on top of the log lift as well. Once these rounds are at working height it is not hard to slide them around. I have worked all day a couple of times with large rounds and no sore back the next morning. But like I've said before, if your preference is vertical, have at it, it's just not for me when there are better options in my opinion.

And don't come off like everybody had a fit because you liked vertical better.........it had nothing to do with your opinion on vertical or horizontal with log lift.........it had everything to do with you running a unit down that you have never used or even seen in person. Below are links to the thread I have clipped quotes from:

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=68431&page=2

KMB,

No offense intended........if you like the vertical splitter I am sure you will be happy with it, especially after you have put some time in on one. My only problem was with BRM whining and mis-stating what our disagreement was about a few months ago. I have read alot of good things about the Huskee 22, seem like real good units. Good luck with whatever you choose!

Waylan

Wow, didn't see that coming... No offense taken.

I had been interested in reading the thread that Mark had mentioned...now I know where to find it. I like to get as much info as possible before making an 'expensive-to-me' purchase.

Not to ruffle anymore feathers, but regarding wrestling a large round while using the vertical position, it was a bit of a chore. A log lift on a horizontal splitter would have been nice...but I ask myself, at how much more of a purchase price over a vertical/horizontal splitter? I'll have to do my own research and find out. To add to this, the big rounds that I split vertically were not what I'd typically cut and bring home. I had 'carefully' rolled a few of them, using ramps, onto the trailer...not an easy task. The other big rounds were loaded for me by the tree guy with his Swinger loader. I only got those rounds because I knew I was going to be able to use the vert/hori splitter, otherwise I would have left them. Last year, out of NEED, I had cut and brought home some big rounds (rolled onto trailer) that I had quartered (and some of the quarters had to be cut again) to be able to get on that blue splitter. After that, I told myself that I would not do that again unless I had acquiried better equipment to properly handle the big stuff. So since I don't have the money for better wood handling equipment, I just 'carefully' use my body, saws, borrowed horizontal splitter, maul (for more exercise when I feel up to it), sledge and metal wedges. I know I could lay the big rounds on their side and split them with the sledge and wedges, but not all pieces split easy this way...and when doing this in the southern summer... . I know, I know, do it in the spring and fall, and I try, but finding the time. The biggest reason why I usually won't get the big rounds is for how I would have to load them with out hurting myself. I could go on, but I'll quit.

What point was I trying to get across (after my rambling...)? Oh ya...that depending on price, a vertical/horizontal splitter would work for me and that there would be very few times when I would have to wrestle big rounds under it. But...if there is a QUALITY made horizontal splitter with a log lift that is priced the same as the 35 ton Huskee (and same ton rating)...I might have to consider it.

Kevin

 

[KMB]

So now you are owned by Two (2) women instead of just one. That little one is a cutie!

Owned by 2 women...yeah, I know it...

I hope the Lord gives me a boy next so I can get things evened up!

Kevin

 

[KMB]

The only thing we were talking about here was vertical vs. horizontal.

American vs. Speeco vs. Timberwolf is a completely different subject, and no part of this discussion.

Can't you leave somebody else's thread alone? Grow up!

Fight nice you two!...

Also in my looking at splitters, I'm taking into account how easy it would be for me to get one home...as in picking it up myself vs having it shipped. I'd rather pick it up in person and with that I could bring it back easily if needed to for whatever reason...after all it is a man-made machine.

Kevin

 

[walexa07]

The only thing we were talking about here was vertical vs. horizontal.

American vs. Speeco vs. Timberwolf is a completely different subject, and no part of this discussion.

Can't you leave somebody else's thread alone? Grow up!

Then post a link to the thread you were referring to where you were just asking questions and others were appalled that you had a different opinion........you can't, because that thread does not exist. You were slamming a product that you have never used nor own........that is the only thing I or anyone else called you out on. If I am wrong, prove it.........click user CP, view all subscribed threads, and post it here.

KMB,

Sorry about getting off topic. I live in northern Louisiana.......West Monroe to be exact........and if you are not in a hurry and don't mind driving (I saw you drove to Shreveport which is 1.5 hours away from me), we could set up a time for you to come down and use my horizontal with log lift. I have a large (24"+ diameter) tree down the road I hope to get from a neighbor in the next couple months, and would be glad to let you join in long enough to see what you think. It is a split-fire unit from Canada.......only because shipping was going to be over $800 on the American CLS that I really wanted. I have had to make some modifications to my split-fire, but I really like it now.

I realize that a horizontal with log lift may be more expensive that what you are considering now, but if it was something you really liked, you might could just borrow the other splitters until you saved enough. Another option would be to add a log lift to the blue one you are using. If the owner agreed, for less than what it would cost to buy a Huskee 22, you could add a nice log lift, and have joint ownership of the unit with the owner. I would also raise the beam height while you were at it. This is all stuff that could be completed in 1 weekend. Personally, I would see if the owner would sell it to you.......then raise and add a log lift, and trays to catch pieces for resplitting.

Anyway, just throwing that out there. Let me know if you are interested.

Waylan

 

[walexa07]

KMB,

Also, look up Iron & Oak or Brave splitters........they have free shipping, are said to have great customer service, and offer some in the price range of the Huskee 35.......and I believe they are really good splitters as well if you are interested in H/V. Here are some links:

http://www.sellcom.com/brave.html#Brave 22tonHV

http://www.toolfetch.com/Category/Log_Splitters/22_Ton/bhvh2202.htm

Here is the splitter I have.......split-fire 3265 with log lift.......if you go to their videos you can see them in action........they work really nice:

http://www.split-fire.com/index.html

A buddy and I split some 30" plus rounds 3 weekends ago and had no problem with the large rounds. The hardest part was rolling them to the splitter, piece of cake after that.

Waylan

 

[KMB]

Then post a link to the thread you were referring to where you were just asking questions and others were appalled that you had a different opinion........you can't, because that thread does not exist. You were slamming a product that you have never used nor own........that is the only thing I or anyone else called you out on. If I am wrong, prove it.........click user CP, view all subscribed threads, and post it here.

KMB,

Sorry about getting off topic. I live in northern Louisiana.......West Monroe to be exact........and if you are not in a hurry and don't mind driving (I saw you drove to Shreveport which is 1.5 hours away from me), we could set up a time for you to come down and use my horizontal with log lift. I have a large (24"+ diameter) tree down the road I hope to get from a neighbor in the next couple months, and would be glad to let you join in long enough to see what you think. It is a split-fire unit from Canada.......only because shipping was going to be over $800 on the American CLS that I really wanted. I have had to make some modifications to my split-fire, but I really like it now.

I realize that a horizontal with log lift may be more expensive that what you are considering now, but if it was something you really liked, you might could just borrow the other splitters until you saved enough. Another option would be to add a log lift to the blue one you are using. If the owner agreed, for less than what it would cost to buy a Huskee 22, you could add a nice log lift, and have joint ownership of the unit with the owner. I would also raise the beam height while you were at it. This is all stuff that could be completed in 1 weekend. Personally, I would see if the owner would sell it to you.......then raise and add a log lift, and trays to catch pieces for resplitting.

Anyway, just throwing that out there. Let me know if you are interested.

Waylan

Thanks for the invite. I'm pretty busy right now, besides the splitting, I have hunting on the brain and getting ready for it, but I will keep your offer in mind.

About adding/improving the splitter I use now...I don't have that much mechanical know-how (or the tools needed) on adding log lifts and that type of thing. I think I'd be better to use it as is and save towards what I really want. I would imagine that to get the work done (and materials/components needed) that you mentioned would add up moeny-wise. Something for me to think about though.

Kevin

 

[KMB]

KMB,

Also, look up Iron & Oak or Brave splitters........they have free shipping, are said to have great customer service, and offer some in the price range of the Huskee 35.......and I believe they are really good splitters as well if you are interested in H/V. Here are some links:

http://www.sellcom.com/brave.html#Brave 22tonHV

http://www.toolfetch.com/Category/Log_Splitters/22_Ton/bhvh2202.htm

Here is the splitter I have.......split-fire 3265 with log lift.......if you go to their videos you can see them in action........they work really nice:

http://www.split-fire.com/index.html

A buddy and I split some 30" plus rounds 3 weekends ago and had no problem with the large rounds. The hardest part was rolling them to the splitter, piece of cake after that.

Waylan

Thanks for the links. Decisions, decisions...

Kevin

 

[walexa07]

Thanks for the invite. I'm pretty busy right now, besides the splitting, I have hunting on the brain and getting ready for it, but I will keep your offer in mind.

About adding/improving the splitter I use now...I don't have that much mechanical know-how (or the tools needed) on adding log lifts and that type of thing. I think I'd be better to use it as is and save towards what I really want. I would imagine that to get the work done (and materials/components needed) that you mentioned would add up moeny-wise. Something for me to think about though.

Kevin

If you were not in a hurry, and didn't mind the drive, I would not mind doing the fabrication for you no charge. I have all the necessary equipment......welding machine, plasma cutter, drill press, etc., but we would have to put together a list of what was needed and go from there. A cylinder for the log lift would be about $100, another valve to control the log lift should be about that much, probably about $100 in metal, and supply and return hoses. I think it could be done easily for $400, and as long as you were willing to help out it could probably be done in 1 day or less.

I hear you on the hunting though........I am getting ready myself. Between that, doing some home remodelling, keeping my kids a week at a time (divorced), etc., my time seems to disappear.

The laws in louisiana just changed regarding bow hunting and muzzle-loading. We are now allowed to use a crossbow during bow season, and any single shot rifle 38 caliber or larger, with an exposed hammer during muzzleloader season. I am eyeing a 45-70 from the handi rifle lineup.

Waylan

 

[KMB]

If you were not in a hurry, and didn't mind the drive, I would not mind doing the fabrication for you no charge. I have all the necessary equipment......welding machine, plasma cutter, drill press, etc., but we would have to put together a list of what was needed and go from there. A cylinder for the log lift would be about $100, another valve to control the log lift should be about that much, probably about $100 in metal, and supply and return hoses. I think it could be done easily for $400, and as long as you were willing to help out it could probably be done in 1 day or less.

I hear you on the hunting though........I am getting ready myself. Between that, doing some home remodelling, keeping my kids a week at a time (divorced), etc., my time seems to disappear.

The laws in louisiana just changed regarding bow hunting and muzzle-loading. We are now allowed to use a crossbow during bow season, and any single shot rifle 38 caliber or larger, with an exposed hammer during muzzleloader season. I am eyeing a 45-70 from the handi rifle lineup.

Waylan

That offer is very inviting...I'm in know hurry. I wouldn't entertain the idea of a log lift for this splitter, but it's a strong machine (don't know what ton rating). I'll have to talk to my pastor (the one who I'm borrowing the splitter from) and see what he says about it all. What about raising the beam height?

And...what in the world are you gonna shoot down here that needs a 45-70??? Just to have one? And along the lines of hunting, what does an out-of-state small game license cost? I know a guy that offered to take me rabbit hunting...sound like there's lots of action.

Kevin

 

[walexa07]

To raise the beam height all you would need to do is create more spacing between the beam and the axle.........should be real easy. I like 25" personally but I am on the short side......5'-6". You could try mine out and see whether that would work or if you would rather it higher. If we did modify that one, we would need to raise the beam height first since the log lift dimensions would depend on it.

My cousin has a 45-70, and it would be like shooting a slug out of a shotgun.....little smaller, but close. My current muzzleloader is a 45 caliber.....and they want you to use a 38 caliber or larger single shot. His 45-70 recoils about like a 20 gauge shotgun.

Go to Louisiana Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries..........I don't think out of state license are too bad, especially if you just get a 3-day pass.

Waylan

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Also in my looking at splitters, I'm taking into account how easy it would be for me to get one home...as in picking it up myself vs having it shipped. I'd rather pick it up in person and with that I could bring it back easily if needed to for whatever reason...after all it is a man-made machine.

That DOES count. Shipping on any of these beasties can wreck your budget in a hurry.

On the other hand, once out of warranty, a good local hydraulic or welding shop should be able to take care of anything that might go wrong. I doubt you are going to actually BREAK any of the better ones. Seals, pumps, engines, hoses are what will wear out.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

KMB,

Also, look up Iron & Oak or Brave splitters........they have free shipping, are said to have great customer service, and offer some in the price range of the Huskee 35.......and I believe they are really good splitters as well if you are interested in H/V.

I bought a monster maul and some wedges from them. Real nice folks to deal with. Top notch. I also bought their mini-maul, and a hammer, which broke the first season. I was using it to set wedges in big oak. Needless to say, I wouldn't recommend the hammer! Wedges were good, as was the big maul. Still using them. The mini hasn't gotten much use.

I just missed a chance on buying one of their splitters from a rental company. It got sold just before I could get there. :angry2: I think it would have been a great deal. They are beefy.

 

[KMB]

That DOES count. Shipping on any of these beasties can wreck your budget in a hurry.

On the other hand, once out of warranty, a good local hydraulic or welding shop should be able to take care of anything that might go wrong. I doubt you are going to actually BREAK any of the better ones. Seals, pumps, engines, hoses are what will wear out.

Yep, I agree on all points. And in shipping, a component could be damaged along the way...of course depending on how it would be crated.

Kevin

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

And...what in the world are you gonna shoot down here that needs a 45-70??? Just to have one?

Kevin, a .45-70 is its own justification. Ka-BAM!



One of these days.....

http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp

 

[KMB]

To raise the beam height all you would need to do is create more spacing between the beam and the axle.........should be real easy. I like 25" personally but I am on the short side......5'-6". You could try mine out and see whether that would work or if you would rather it higher. If we did modify that one, we would need to raise the beam height first since the log lift dimensions would depend on it.

Alright...I'll have to take all this info and chew on it a while. Vert/hori vs hori vs mod borrowed splitter (if pastor and others agree) vs buy splitter and mod. The deal with the borrowed splitter is that it actually 'belongs' to our little church. We use it two or three times a year on Saturdays to split firewood for the fellowship house wood heater/burner. The other church members have access to it, but hardly use it. Since I moved down here and started into the firewood (and saws), I have been using it quite a bit and I have agreed to look after maintaining it and treating it like my own...if anything breaks while I'm using it, I'll fix it or get it fixed out of my pocket. Everybody knows that I have sold a few cords of my extra firewood and they're okay with that. So I don't know if the pastor and others will want to put part of the money into modding the splitter (even though they would also benefit from it). And if I bought it, I'd have the purchase price plus the mod components cost...and it might be close to what a new splitter would be. Arrrggghhh...what to do...at this present time...nothing...until I can get some money put away. So I'll get info, and plan and scheme for later...

My cousin has a 45-70, and it would be like shooting a slug out of a shotgun.....little smaller, but close. My current muzzleloader is a 45 caliber.....and they want you to use a 38 caliber or larger single shot. His 45-70 recoils about like a 20 gauge shotgun.

Go to Louisiana Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries..........I don't think out of state license are too bad, especially if you just get a 3-day pass.

Waylan

I understand. I shot a friends lever-action, octagon barrel 45-70 a few years ago and was surprised on how mild the recoil was.

Kevin

 

[KMB]

Kevin, a .45-70 is its own justification. Ka-BAM!



One of these days.....

http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp

LOL, I hear ya! That's quite the 'hand cannon' you want...

Kevin

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Don't get me wrong - that lever gun you described would be mighty nice, too.

But there's something about a hot loaded .45-70 out of a handgun that just has to be experienced....

Ka WHAM!