impact solutions

[treeminator]

what do you guys use to lessen the impact of large falling branches on structures?

i usually use bags of mulch or bags of leaves. last time i had to do this was during an oak removal hanging over a customer's roof. rather than "piecing it down", which is time consuming and labor inten$ive, i simply placed about 20 bags and covered it with a 4x8 piece of plywood. then we cut the branches. the largest of the branches was about 900lbs. we cut it and...... BAMMMM!!! it landed perfectly on the impact zone without causing any damage to the roof. the customer even gave me a $50 tip for doing such a good job. so what do you guys use?

 

[Ax-man]

:notrolls2: What was wrong with your HD brown rope, tooo much for it. How do you know you didn't hurt the roof ??? Did you go in the attic and check for cracked trusses and 2x4's, there is more to a roof than just shingles ya know.

 

[treeminator]

i forgot to add. because their was a layer of bags under the plywood serving as protection, the roof never even got scratched or anything which sometimes results from "piecing it down". a win-win situation.

 

[Mike Barcaskey]

I've never done that. You ever hear of rope, bucket truck or crane?

 

[Mike Barcaskey]

mmmm, sorry ax-man, you're right

 

[treeminator]

I've never done that. You ever hear of rope, bucket truck or crane?

yes, and i use them too. but i'm talking about those trees where there might be one or two large branches hanging over the structure. sometimes it's a heck of a lot easier to assemble a quick cushion, then to go rent a boom lift or go climpbing, rigging, and piecing. it's alot less money wasted in labor too.

 

[treeminator]

I usually try to borrow the customers pillows. Even couch cushions work ok.

If I have to bring my own I charge extra.

Dan

hey that's not such a bad idea. the couch pillows part. i see old thrown out couches all over the place. those would be easy to store and much easier to haul around.

 

[BoesTreeService]

Just a dumb new guy

What would be wrong with bidding the job at a price you can afford to "waste" that extra time to lower the 900 lb piece of wood in a safe manner. I mean, what happens to that log after it hits the bags? Does it roll off the roof? Thats still quite a big (uncontrolled) impact on the yard, sidewalk, with possible kickback into the side of the house.

And if it doesnt roll off, how do you deal with the 900 lb log on the roof? Buck it right there? I dont see anyone rolling a 900 lb'er around on a roof. And what do you do if the limb is over a steeper pitched roof?

And if this really does work, they have a place here in my town that sells these giant bean bag chairs, I mean these things are monsters, 10 to 15 feet in diameter.

 

[Ax-man]

good one, Dan

 

[Newfie]

Just chance it, why waste the labor on setting up a cushion. Just bomb away. Sometimes you'll break stuff but then just charge the customer a good rate to fix it. Heck half the time they can't even see up there, so they will never know if you wrecked the shingles or made a little hole. Think of all the labor saved.

 

[DDM]

Treeminator? Why not just put 4 or 5 of your guys on the roof to catch the limb?

 

[pbtree]

Old mattress for me!

 

[pbtree]

Treeminator? Why not just put 4 or 5 of your guys on the roof to catch the limb?

Minimum wage employees from fast food restuarants are not trained in the fine art of catching...opcorn:

 

[spacemule]

Man, you guys go to way too much trouble to get rid of trees. Heck, all you gotta do is take some wood boring bugs and place them in the tree. In a few weeks, the tree will be covered with them. Then, woodpeckers will come along and finish the job for you. Just think of all the precious time and labor you save!

And don't forget, if you create habitats for endangered woodpeckers, there is a government agency set up to pay you for your efforts. So, you make money from the customer and the government--all with out ever buying a single rope or hiring any dimwit crewmen. Not bad for a jar of bugs. I've signed fifty contracts this week using this pioneering technique, and I have a near 100,000,000% ROI. I scrounge the bugs from the city dump, and all I'm out is the gas money for my moped to drive there and back. Heck, the jars for holding the bugs can even be easily found in the dump!!

 

[Ekka]

Please, next time video it.

900lb onto a roof. Was the roof flat or something and what was it, tiles, tin etc? If the roof was heavily pitched then you'd have the problem of the piece rolling too.

Also, can you give an approximation of the dia and length of the piece, how far it fell etc.

I'm thinking if it came down butt first you'd be in deep chit, but hey, you're the expert and might have something going here.

I use foams a lot and have blocked down onto roofs before, but 900lb is a BIG WHACK.

 

[Dadatwins]

As more and more of these type questions are posted from treedestroyer I can't help wonder about the inteligence of the folks in the area he works in. He tears up sprinkler systems and makes the homeowners pay for it, hauls bags of leaves and mulch and plywood onto roofs to drop logs onto, has a business plan that I have never heard of in 25 years of doing this type of work. But then again, he is working the same place that could not figure out how to pick A or B in a presidential election, and then created the term 'hanging chad' to defend themselves.

 

[treeseer]

:spam:

:notrolls2:

 

[Ekka]

:spam:

:notrolls2:

Well, that just wrecked the party, how do you know this guy aint for real?

Lets see if we get some facts first, he's gotta supply them, dia, length, species, ht from roof top etc. Then Ill transfer that data into impact weight over surface area he's protected and cross reference it to the building specs for that roof via the engineers and see if it can be done.

Heck, I walked on a roof today and bent the fake aluminium tiles, and regardless of what you'd like to think I aint 900lbs!!!!

 

[Ax-man]

I would say Treemoronus is for real, but i also think he is one of the regular posters using an alias and having some fun to see what type of reactions he is going to get from posting such bogus business practices. He is might even be one of our seasoned climbers having some fun or one of the guys from the logger crowd, whoever he is he sure is creative. With the way he is going about it he has also had some practice at this before.

Larry

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

How Maaslovian!