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Bed liner is sure what it looks like.....but to rubbery........air filter and boot are in perfect condition.....crap didn't enter as a solid at all....came through the carb jets as a liquid....became a semi-solid when it hit the hot conrod and piston....oversprayed onto the crankcase wall on the EX side directly across from the intake port.....stuck there......couldn't have ran but seconds.....stopped quick....LOL!! I have theory.....LOL!!! Don't know whether it was a meen prank or a mistake.......same end results either way......
 
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Cantdog said:
Good luck Kevin......can never have to many parts saws!! LOL!!
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Thanks Robin....I always look to you when I start feeling guilty about too many saws!;) I have low aspirations actually....just want two running 80's, two running 90's and two perfectly running 2100's and of course a good stock of back-up parts. I may stop after that...notice I said 'may'.

WTF is that stuff in your saw??? How the hell did it get through the carb screens to get that much in the crankcase?? Wow....is there no end to what bad homeowners do to their saws? Looks like he got really brutal with it trying to start it, at some point....:confused: I wonder if someone told him about some 'magical' stuff to put in his saw mix....:eek:

Kevin
 
Cantdog said:
Bed liner is sure what it looks like.....but to rubbery........air filter and boot are in perfect condition.....crap didn't enter as a solid at all....came through the carb jets as a liquid....became a semi-solid when it hit the hot conrod and piston....oversprayed onto the crankcase wall on the EX side directly across from the intake port.....stuck there......couldn't have ran but seconds.....stopped quick....LOL!! I have theory.....LOL!!! Don't know whether it was a meen prank or a mistake.......same end results either way......
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I was gonna say...maybe vandalism? But some punk would have put in sugar or valve grinding compound etc. If the homeowner put it in, it's because somebody told him it was a magic elixir....but what??? WD-40 with something else added...friction modifiers?:ices_rofl:

Probably better figure heat is a factor in all this;as it got heated up in your crankcase, it started to precipitate into the black rubbery stuff. Chemistry 501 anyone?

Kevin
 
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SawTroll said:
.....and the theory is??????:popcorn::popcorn:
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HaHaHa!!! Hey Niko!!!

My theory is.....and it is just a theory....of course being an ebay saw....and again I am not whining about the purchase...625 is and was not high on my list of Jonsered saws to aquire. I went in forewarned by the seller that, though he could turn it over with a wrench it did not turn freely and I also knew about the top handle from the pics.....that said here is how I have theorized this saws life so far. First bought new by perhaps an elderly person who knew the value of taking care of his tools and due to age/health/strength reasons had a decomp fitted to the saw or perhaps fitted it himself. He used the saw lightly around the home and/or for firewood duty.....he took very good care of it...was proud of it.
Then something happened....either he passed away or no longer could or needed to use the saw and it passed/sold to someone else who was not as clever or caring......the material inside the saw.....I believe is a solvent based contact cement........ in production formica work (just to name one place) the adhesive can be thinned with a solvent to the point of being able to be sprayed in surfaces to glue the laminate down.....it is a very thin liquid and the solvent evaporates very quickly when exposed to air which the little bit remaining in the fuel tank did when I poured it off into a container. As I have said the material is very rubbery in texture and acetone cuts it......there was no scoring on the piston or cyl walls just the material buildup. The piston was literally glued into the cyl....don't think I ever had a saw come apart as hard as this one. Now this was either a very bad prank or an accident......but when the saw stopped and the guy tried to restart it...it wouldn't budge....he pulled so hard that he pulled the top layer of rope down by the side of at least one of the lower layers and bound the starter up real bad and then in a fit of rage either threw the saw off something or bashed it into something hard enough to fold the top handle back to the point where the blow glanced off the handle (handle cover was torn away) and hit the recoil cover ripping away part of the sticker and removing some red plastic from the cover. Then someone...perhaps the seller acquired the saw and tried to straighten the handle and get the saw to turn over.

Again this is only a theory but it is the only sense I can make of it......I welcome other theories or points of view. I have not had time to dig in any deeper but will be definitely be splitting the cases and probably installing a new crankshaft and main bearings...I think everything else will clean up fine with solvent.....not sure about the carb....that may have gone beyond by now but we shall see....LOL!!!
 
Good theory, Robin. I like the caring older guy part and then passing to a ham-fisted relative. The real mystery here, is how the stuff got in there in the first place. If it IS some kinda adhesive with flash properties...I vote vandalism. A lot of cretins who would wind up with a saw like this for 'free' would not be inclined to take care of it. And then it goes without saying that they either get stolen or vandalized. So maybe we figure some local punk was getting back at the second ham-fisted owner, because he didn't like him for some reason...maybe even his son...who knows. And rather than the saw getting stolen in this instance, it failed and wound up in the hands of the ebay seller who thought he had a 'deal', originally. This is one for the book, methinks!

Kevin
 
Yep...a real puzzler as Bob (spike60) would say!! Could be a bad prank/vengeance or just a bad move on the part of the idiot operator. We'll never really know but as I take this saw down I am going to try different solvents on the ball of mung....see if I can isolate exactly what the adhesive is... I just can't come up with any other stuff that would do that and still be thin enough to pass through the carb jets......may have had some gas/mix in it too....smelled somewhat gas like...but stronger...
 
Cantdog said:
Yep...a real puzzler as Bob (spike60) would say!! Could be a bad prank/vengeance or just a bad move on the part of the idiot operator. We'll never really know but as I take this saw down I am going to try different solvents on the ball of mung....see if I can isolate exactly what the adhesive is... I just can't come up with any other stuff that would do that and still be thin enough to pass through the carb jets......may have had some gas/mix in it too....smelled somewhat gas like...but stronger...
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If acetone works, so will MEK...both pretty bad to be around. Maybe try lacquer thinner as a candidate....that's how how I got the 'syrup' out of a gas tank in a 90...that and BB's. My question is...if he put that stuff in there and it's adhesive..WHY...unless somebody told him that would 'juice' his gas mix....like acetone in gasoline etc. I don't get it...other than vandalism. I'm searching my brain to remember any 'magic elixir', urban myth type stuff to put into chainsaws. :confused:

Kevin
 
Cantdog said:
Yep...a real puzzler as Bob (spike60) would say!! Could be a bad prank/vengeance or just a bad move on the part of the idiot operator. We'll never really know but as I take this saw down I am going to try different solvents on the ball of mung....see if I can isolate exactly what the adhesive is... I just can't come up with any other stuff that would do that and still be thin enough to pass through the carb jets......may have had some gas/mix in it too....smelled somewhat gas like...but stronger...
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So in short...........

A drunk home homeowner dumped rubber cement into his saw so he could cut a twig for his weenie roast?!

Hey Robin!

This be interesting!
 
I was checking CL this AM, and found an ad for a Jonsered dealer here in Houston, to my knowledge the only (first??) one. I plan to check out the shop soon.
 
Cantdog said:
36 mins left........Hope that's your bid on that ol' 80 Kevin......Good luck!!
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Thanks, yes it was and I won it!:clap:
I've talked to him about the shipping...he's agreeable to refund if it's cheaper. I had a 90 power head come from MA for $35 USPS like a week ago, so I know it's possible to ship for less than what the shipping 'calculator' posted. I'm figuring this entirely to be a part's saw....anything better and I'll be jumping around for joy! All you saw on the auction were the two distant pics in the snow, with a promise to post more. Price was right....shipping, not so much. I'll report back on the actual saw when I get it.

Kevin
 
Chris J. said:
I was checking CL this AM, and found an ad for a Jonsered dealer here in Houston, to my knowledge the only (first??) one. I plan to check out the shop soon.
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Chris, are you looking for new parts or saws? Unless he's an old dealer with NOS stuff, it will just be the newer Jreds.

There was this guy selling 80 NOS rings on ebay...probably still listed, BTW. I wrote and asked him if he had any other NOS old Jonny parts. Sure he said and he used to be a Jred dealer-make a list. So I did and he had most of the parts...I was excited!! Sent him the money through PayPal and about a week later I got a notice of $19 postage due at the PO. Thought this was a bit strange, shouldn't be postage due. Paid and was walking to my car with the box and shaking it, it felt like one big object. Got it home and opened..it was a boat prop! OK so I get the guy's # and call him....doesn't have any idea how I got the boat prop....but then asked if I wanted it??!! :eek:

Said he didn't know what to do....I suggested he find the guy he was supposed to send the boat prop to, because he prolly had my saw parts! So now I'm out the price of all the parts, the postage due amount and he wants the boat prop back before he sends the saw parts....so there's that shipping on my end as well. Nothing like trust and man, I sure wanted that boat prop...NOT!
Took about a month to get this all straightened out. I even offered to have him send me those 80 rings in place of some of the refund....said he didn't read his emails, his wife does.:blob2:

Anyway, good luck with that Houston dealer...let us know what ya find out.:rock:

Kevin
 
Kevin, I'm not expecting much, that way I won't be dissappointed. I figure it will be mostly about new equipment sales, with limited stock, and even more limited parts. But I might be pleasantly surprised. Really just glad to see Jred having some kind of presence in Houston.
 

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