Just cleaned out this oak 2 weeks ago. comments?

[l2edneck]

Whud yall think?

 

[ropensaddle]

Whud yall think?

I think you need to look into lions tail info.

 

[asthesun]

good job. climb or bucket and how long did it take. also what'd you charge?

 

[l2edneck]

What is the reasoning behind stripping the entire center of trees like that?

to let the wind blow thru in a storm,betters the chance of just losing limbs instead of the whole tree.

I think you need to look into lions tail info.

mostly dead almost no green in the chips,its on its way out.and what the pics dont show is the eighty foot spread. But i appreciate it guys

climb or bucket and how long did it take. also what'd you charge?

climbed,bout 4 hours i think we got only 750.00

 

[ropensaddle]

to let the wind blow thru in a storm,betters the chance of just losing limbs instead of the whole tree.


mostly dead almost no green in the chips,its on its way out.and what the pics dont show is the eighty foot spread. But i appreciate it guys

[QUOTEclimb or bucket and how long did it take. also what'd you charge?

climbed,bout 4 hours i think we got only 750.00[/QUOTE]

Look at the before pic take all dead out only dead light reduction on some of the overspreading limbs crown cleaning. Older trees don't take kindly to mass pruning and over thinning the two large limbs also could have stayed.

 

[asthesun]

I think you need to look into lions tail info.

dont listen to that gibberish. they dont know about our florida liveoaks. plus, what the customer wants is what the customer gets. tree looked sparse to begin with. honestly, 750 is about all you could hope for on a lift and thin of that size. some people would charge less and still make decent money. how much brush did you end up with, about 20 yards?

 

[ropensaddle]

It looks way over thinned!

What is the reasoning behind stripping the entire center of trees like that?

They need them out of the way:hmm3grin2orange: I try to leave the inner thinning last do crown clean and deadwood then leave as much green as possible in center. Unless it is thick then cut one leave one as to not produce lions tails!

 

[l2edneck]

two large limbs also could have stayed.

one had a giant cavity,other was a stub.

how much brush did you end up with, about 20 yards?

i wouldn't say that much.like i said,most was deadwood.

 

[l2edneck]

I try to leave the inner thinning last do crown clean and deadwood

uh duh,

 

[ropensaddle]

dont listen to that gibberish. they dont know about our florida liveoaks. plus, what the customer wants is what the customer gets. tree looked sparse to begin with. honestly, 750 is about all you could hope for on a lift and thin of that size. some people would charge less and still make decent money. how much brush did you end up with, about 20 yards?

Lol Quercus Virginiana it is a plant right?

 

[l2edneck]

it is a plant right?

im pretty sure it was a tree bro.

 

[ropensaddle]

uh duh,

Then how did we end up lions tailed? You asked for opinions did you not?

 

[asthesun]

Lol Quercus Virginiana it is a plant right?

hot springs, thats in florida, right?

 

[ropensaddle]

hot springs, thats in florida, right?

No it is on Mars Species health while site specific in terms of soil structure,water infiltration rate,Florida grown tree has no bearing on proper pruning guidelines.

 

[asthesun]

No it is on Mars Species health while site specific in terms of soil structure,water infiltration rate,has no bearing on proper pruning guidelines.

you certainly speak like you are from mars. in the first pic, those limbs in the front hide the fact that the tree is sparse. he didnt over-thin it, it was thin to begin with. looks like he took 2 limbs and suckered and deadwooded it, which is what we do to liveoaks in florida

 

[l2edneck]

Then how did we end up lions tailed? You asked for opinions did you not?

yes

look close at the before and tell me how much was really in the middle?

im tellin you that most was dead. and that is the tree looks lion tailed due to size of spread.Plus i cleaned a ton of toe out of it.

believe it or not its raining so im just trolling,but what i pruned was just what it needed. I have pruned many diseased trees.Although it appears stripped most of the crap that was left needed to come off.

This tree reached its life span and needed a facelift before its inevitable demise.What i have done has more than likely prolonged the life of this very tree.had i left more disese infested crap on it its decline would have more than likely increased.

I felt good on giving more life that day,lord knows ive whacked a many healthier trees.

 

[ropensaddle]

you certainly speak like you are from mars. in the first pic, those limbs in the front hide the fact that the tree is sparse. he didnt over-thin it, it was thin to begin with. looks like he took 2 limbs and suckered and deadwooded it, which is what we do to liveoaks in florida

I could see it was over thinned before so in Florida if it is sparse the best thing is to wack the rest off?:monkey: I wonder myself if only the dead were taken and the canopy thinned if by some little glimmer of hope the center would not rebound? Of course after soil test and prescribed multch and or aeration were mitigated!

 

[asthesun]

I could see it was over thinned before so in Florida if it is sparse the best thing is to wack the rest off?:monkey: I wonder myself if only the dead were taken and the canopy thinned if by some little glimmer of hope the center would not rebound? Of course after soil test and prescribed multch and or aeration were mitigated!

he did very little, like he said. removed a rotten limb, a stub and deadwooded it. in any case, doing what is healthy for the tree might not look as pretty what the customer wants so when all else fails, just do what they ask and get paid for it. if their bad ideas about what a tree should look like kill their tree, maybe you'll get to come back and remove it (and get paid again). you have to find a balance between 3 things, doing what is healthy for the tree, doing what makes the tree look good and doing what the customer wants. sometimes its hard to do all three, in which case just do what the customer wants, otherwise they'll find someone else who will do what they want. i stand by his trim job since i trim liveoaks every day and have prolly seen more than you. neither of us was there though and the picture is a 2d view of a 3d object.

 

[ropensaddle]

I noticed the one in the next yard must have been infected as well

 

[treeseer]

Species health while site specific in terms of soil structure,water infiltration rate,has no bearing on proper pruning guidelines.

ropen, species has a lot to do with what pruning is proper, but I agree it was gutted in the name of hurricane-proofing, which is a questionable concept in terms of physics and biology.

Attached is a live oak in largo that i worked on last saturday. note green sprouts on lefthand trunk; all new coming back after stripping last year. job security for treeguys who come back every year with the stripping = stormproofing bs, instead of getting out to the tips where light reduction would make a real difference in stability.

Another crew found a mushroom at the base and told the owner no problem; just call the town and they can get a permit for removal. :censored: turns out there was very little rot in the tree; like killing a patient because of melanoma. lotta arbo snake oil going around in FL. No offense 12Ed; I'll be in cwtr in 3 weeks and demossing that largo tree; maybe we can check out some trees then. opcorn:

Live oak's lifespan is waaaaaay older than that tree is.

yes main thing is we are critiquing based on 2d maybe not totally fair.