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So, are you replacing the damaged ash?
Side lean is rarely your friend....I cant see a pull line....
Side lean is rarely your friend....I cant see a pull line....
It was another case of listening to the boss because he's the boss. (I'm getting tired of that.) I wanted to take the stem down with the lean but he figured the holding wood could twist it. We both agreed it would take out the ash but still he had to flex his authorative muscle. No word on the ash but I'm sure if he catches hell then it'll probably be on my head....and wallet.
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Took down a thorny locust in a mini golf course at a local camp ground today. This tree was stuck by lightening last fall. I spent about 30 min stripping thorns as I climbed up this tree, I didnt get poked with one untill the tree was on the gropund and I was doing ground work. There was no room for error on this one, tree was between hole #1 and split rail cedar fence. I worked down the left side of this tree then dropped the right side.
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Took down a thorny locust in a mini golf course at a local camp ground today. This tree was stuck by lightening last fall. I spent about 30 min stripping thorns as I climbed up this tree, I didnt get poked with one untill the tree was on the gropund and I was doing ground work. There was no room for error on this one, tree was between hole #1 and split rail cedar fence. I worked down the left side of this tree then dropped the right side.
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Davidsinatree
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working a limb extending over cedar fence.
Davidsinatree
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getting ready to top this thing out.
Davidsinatree
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topping cuts.
Davidsinatree
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Its on the deck now.
Myself and a ground man took 6 hrs including a good lunch break at the restrant, from start to finish. It was a good day.
Myself and a ground man took 6 hrs including a good lunch break at the restrant, from start to finish. It was a good day.
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Nickrosis
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Happened to me last week, too. Tree hits the ground and a Pizza Hut delivery guy jumps out of his car before we started bucking to ask for the wood. Never had it happen that fast before... He gave us a free large pizza coupon.
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I had to make one last cut on these two sweet gums, so the log loader could handle the rest safely, without a doubt... big Jon did the rest of the trees.... We had a choice... take a small chance or get out the lines and saddle... treework is a great way of life..
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I don't know what you mean about holding wood twisting it, it's notched right in the direction it fell. In the picture of the tree with the notch, it was obvious the Ash was getting hit.
Replacing the Ash would probably cost more than you charged to cut the poplar down.
If you could have taken a couple more branches on the left, the rest of the tree might have cleared it, or put a rope in it an notch it to the right.
Great Pix!!
This is an 'advanced' examination, of powers that could stand for you, or dangerously against you. Mostly here for discussion, not for someone to try and hurt themselves:
On smaller/ light project like Mathias, i might try to Kerf Dutch lean side, but only if it has enough forward lean to throw thru that step, and use it, not jam. Then the lean face would push to center the whole time, sclallop the lower face on the control/non-lean side from front center to apex of faces on control side to really throw towards control side as face stayed open even longer pulling on hinge to control side and dutch pushed towards control side the whole time. Mostly this would be for education on how to do it with even smaller stuff in tree, and understanding the functions. A conventional knotch, with the bottom face dropped/scalloped out on the control side gives very distinct "machine commands" to the hinge/face machine in "machine language"(actually computer term, crossed over).
i really like Daniel's pull line lacing; i think it is maximum in 2 ways. In the leverage procuced, and then the way that force is then subsequentally enacted and used upon the load as a seperate maximizable factor. The increased leverage length from the hinge is easier to see, the more elusive detail i think is the increased arch on hinge. Any solid that arches leverages i think; in that, from the same power source, one end is moving faster than the other in the arc-ing. i think a lot of rigging is about seeing lil'easy points like this to maximum habitually, to cover all contingencies, and make the more efficient positions more practiced to sight out and use. Also as you get closer to total efficiency, the dynamic change per adjsutment is much more, jsut as any degree closer to balanced is(one of the ways when sniffing around to tell if you are on the right track?). This gives more positive reinforcement and education too. You can always pull less harder within the usable pull force, but not more, so setting up for easiest/maximized leverage increases range of power without cost;and is a hell'uva education IMLHO.
This is an 'advanced' examination, of powers that could stand for you, or dangerously against you. Mostly here for discussion, not for someone to try and hurt themselves:
On smaller/ light project like Mathias, i might try to Kerf Dutch lean side, but only if it has enough forward lean to throw thru that step, and use it, not jam. Then the lean face would push to center the whole time, sclallop the lower face on the control/non-lean side from front center to apex of faces on control side to really throw towards control side as face stayed open even longer pulling on hinge to control side and dutch pushed towards control side the whole time. Mostly this would be for education on how to do it with even smaller stuff in tree, and understanding the functions. A conventional knotch, with the bottom face dropped/scalloped out on the control side gives very distinct "machine commands" to the hinge/face machine in "machine language"(actually computer term, crossed over).
i really like Daniel's pull line lacing; i think it is maximum in 2 ways. In the leverage procuced, and then the way that force is then subsequentally enacted and used upon the load as a seperate maximizable factor. The increased leverage length from the hinge is easier to see, the more elusive detail i think is the increased arch on hinge. Any solid that arches leverages i think; in that, from the same power source, one end is moving faster than the other in the arc-ing. i think a lot of rigging is about seeing lil'easy points like this to maximum habitually, to cover all contingencies, and make the more efficient positions more practiced to sight out and use. Also as you get closer to total efficiency, the dynamic change per adjsutment is much more, jsut as any degree closer to balanced is(one of the ways when sniffing around to tell if you are on the right track?). This gives more positive reinforcement and education too. You can always pull less harder within the usable pull force, but not more, so setting up for easiest/maximized leverage increases range of power without cost;and is a hell'uva education IMLHO.
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