Let's talk clothing

[BLACKeR]

Blue jeans and 100 percent cotton shirts is what I wear
wicking sweat away will lead you to a stroke faster than shirts
that absorb sweat as you will sweat less. Less sweat means
cooler core temp and if its a while before you get down for
water you will need all the help you can get and cotton is sooooo
solft

I'm not too sure what you mean by this. its not the sweat that cools you down, its the evaporation of the sweat. 100% cotton is a terrible fabric if your trying to stay cool or warm. you always want the sweat pulled away from you and evaporating, to cool you down. under armour all the way, i wear it skiing in the winter and for many summer activities, you cant beat it.

 

[BostonBull]

As I ve said before, I climb in shorts. I m too good w a saw to ever put it into my leg (almost 4 decades) and the occassional knick or cut is made up for not having anything bind on my knees.

That is the most arrogant statement I have heard in a while! :bang:

They call them accidents because they arent planned.

Your gods gift to saw operators huh?

 

[treevet]

I think I was just censored on a reply I made. If that s the case you are rid of me.

 

[BostonBull]

I think I was just censored on a reply I made. If that s the case you are rid of me.

PM/e-mail me if youd like to talk openly! Its in my profile.

 

[sawsong]

another uk guy here using stihl hiflex. about the lightest and coolest protective trousers you can get here with possible exception of stretch-air which are just hellishly expensive.

i know we dont get your temperatures but we can hit into the 90s i reckon on a hot sunny day at times. they remain wearable too.

i wear elten terrain boots, nice and comfy, protective, not too pricey, and up top i wear the logo'd polo shirt of the company i work for with me day-glo braces over the top. for me, it's no fashion show. I'd rather work knowing im going to be comfortable and safe. i find 100% cotton polo shirts more than adequate for wicking sweat and being highly breatheable thanks to the relatively open weave compared to a tshirt.

if i know ive got a bunch of smaller trees to prune by hand then the cargo shorts go on in the summer, but the stihl hiflex are easily climbable trousers as much as they are good on the ground. I see PPE as there for a reason. to have it and not wear it is foolish at best in my opinion.

my uncle, an experienced engineer and joiner of decades experience stumbled in his workshop last year and put his hand down to steady himself, it slipping into the revolving blade of his table saw and him losing a finger. accidents dont care whether you're the best or the worst, what's more... i tend to find complacency and arrogance more dangerous than the tentative nature of inexperience.

keep safe all

 

[NickfromWI]

When I lived in WI, I started the transition from cotton socks to wool socks. I found that smartwool makes the best socks. Now, here we are a few years later and I live in Los Angeles and I ONLY wear wool socks. They ARE expensive, but they last a longggg time. It's worth a small fee to have dry feet.

treevet, don't worry about it. The censoring happens all the time here.

love
nick

 

[Blinky]

Call me cheap or whatever but I wear 2nd hand BDUs from the surplus store or Carhart shorts with sleeveless t shirts or tank tops. I just found some Belgium surplus BDU's for $10 a pair a while back... wish I'd have bought a dozen of'em. I keep a gym bag in the car with 5 or so shirts and an extra pair of pants. I change shirts every time I get down and it feels goooood. A sweat soaked shirt is nice in a breeze.
The BDU's do let the sawdust into my boots but it never seems to work it's way down to where it's uncomfortable.

I know tech clothing fairly well and if I backpacking or doing something where I have to pack light then tech is the way I go... but if I have my car and an igloo full of ice water I go cotton.

I do like the Thor-lo socks, there's an outlet store nearby where I get 2nds.

I'll buy some Arborwear pants as soon as I find them in a store where I can try'em on but I'm not up for getting them mail order when I don't know how they'll fit. With BDU's I know I can wear small-longs or medium-longs (if I stitch'em) regardless of where I but them.

JPS,
A 38" inseam? Dang, you must be a tall drink of water son!

 

[treevet]

When I lived in WI, I started the transition from cotton socks to wool socks. I found that smartwool makes the best socks. Now, here we are a few years later and I live in Los Angeles and I ONLY wear wool socks. They ARE expensive, but they last a longggg time. It's worth a small fee to have dry feet.

treevet, don't worry about it. The censoring happens all the time here.

love
nick

Thanks, Nick, I m over it now. I m not God s gift to anything (maybe the Devil s) or arrogant (a relative term of being better than others) but rather feel very comfortable in this AS group, as a peer. Hate the thought of having , by law to wear those chaps. Pants are worse than just hitting skin as the saw is drawn into them and will cause worse cuts (multiple). I ve seen it and I m sure others have too. That s the mechanism of the chaps but they bind the saw before skin contact as everyone knows. I m all for green men wearing them but I ve been cutting every workday non stop for 38 years. Sometimes I wonder, do you post what is commonly acceptable, what is conducive to mentoring the young , or just tell the truth.

 

[Bermie]

Blue jeans and 100 percent cotton shirts is what I wear
wicking sweat away will lead you to a stroke faster than shirts
that absorb sweat as you will sweat less. Less sweat means
cooler core temp and if its a while before you get down for
water you will need all the help you can get and cotton is sooooo
solft

I must seriously beg to differ here!
You need to go back to human biology 101, Blacker has it right, it is the evaporation of sweat that cools your body. Your surface blood capillaries dilate, bringing hot blood to the surface of your skin, you sweat, this heat is lost as your sweat evaporates.
A cotton shirt (exception is an old thin one!) will hold the sweat, getting wetter and wetter, but not evaporating quickly enough to effect cooling. Less sweat is a dangerous condition, a symptom of dehydration, and the body rapidy overheats, why do you think they pour water on hot athletes or have mist fans on sideline benches? They need to cool the skin with water as none or not enough is being produced internally or evaporation is limited if they are wearing loads of equipment. You need to keep a balance of water going in, sweat going out, evaporation taking place.
A dry breezy day will cause your sweat to evaporate more quickly, a humid still day will not, that's why you overheat more quickly in humid conditions, the air is too saturated to absorb more moisture from you!
Each person's physiology is different, so I expect some small differences in personal experience, but I have and do work in 90+ degrees, 95-98% humidity, cotton gets soaked, heavy and I overheat, wicking fabrics dry quicker, stay lighter and overheating takes a lot longer. Period!

 

[BostonBull]

I must seriously beg to differ here!
You need to go back to human biology 101, Blacker has it right, it is the evaporation of sweat that cools your body. Your surface blood capillaries dilate, bringing hot blood to the surface of your skin, you sweat, this heat is lost as your sweat evaporates.
A cotton shirt (exception is an old thin one!) will hold the sweat, getting wetter and wetter, but not evaporating quickly enough to effect cooling. Less sweat is a dangerous condition, a symptom of dehydration, and the body rapidy overheats, why do you think they pour water on hot athletes or have mist fans on sideline benches? They need to cool the skin with water as none or not enough is being produced internally or evaporation is limited if they are wearing loads of equipment. You need to keep a balance of water going in, sweat going out, evaporation taking place.
A dry breezy day will cause your sweat to evaporate more quickly, a humid still day will not, that's why you overheat more quickly in humid conditions, the air is too saturated to absorb more moisture from you!
Each person's physiology is different, so I expect some small differences in personal experience, but I have and do work in 90+ degrees, 95-98% humidity, cotton gets soaked, heavy and I overheat, wicking fabrics dry quicker, stay lighter and overheating takes a lot longer. Period!

Bermie GREAT post!!! I dont know how I missed that very uninformed post!

 

[masiman]

I must seriously beg to differ here!
You need to go back to human biology 101, Blacker has it right, it is the evaporation of sweat that cools your body. Your surface blood capillaries dilate, bringing hot blood to the surface of your skin, you sweat, this heat is lost as your sweat evaporates.

Bermie I agree almost completely with your post regarding physiology. The only other factor I can think of with regard to cooling is temperature differentials, i.e. heat indexes, wet bulb tests, etc.

"When the ambient temperature is above body temperature, then radiation, conduction and convection all transfer heat into the body rather than out. Since there must be a net outward heat transfer, the only mechanisms left under those conditions are the evaporation of perspiration from the skin and the evaporative cooling from exhaled moisture."​

I'll give ropensaddle the benefit of doubt. Maybe that is what he meant by less sweat, meaning it had evaporated off.

 

[beowulf343]

I must seriously beg to differ here!
You need to go back to human biology 101, Blacker has it right, it is the evaporation of sweat that cools your body. Your surface blood capillaries dilate, bringing hot blood to the surface of your skin, you sweat, this heat is lost as your sweat evaporates.
A cotton shirt (exception is an old thin one!) will hold the sweat, getting wetter and wetter, but not evaporating quickly enough to effect cooling. Less sweat is a dangerous condition, a symptom of dehydration, and the body rapidy overheats, why do you think they pour water on hot athletes or have mist fans on sideline benches? They need to cool the skin with water as none or not enough is being produced internally or evaporation is limited if they are wearing loads of equipment. You need to keep a balance of water going in, sweat going out, evaporation taking place.
A dry breezy day will cause your sweat to evaporate more quickly, a humid still day will not, that's why you overheat more quickly in humid conditions, the air is too saturated to absorb more moisture from you!
Each person's physiology is different, so I expect some small differences in personal experience, but I have and do work in 90+ degrees, 95-98% humidity, cotton gets soaked, heavy and I overheat, wicking fabrics dry quicker, stay lighter and overheating takes a lot longer. Period!

Interesting, hadn't really thought about all this. But don't get many 90 degree days here either. In fact, last summer we had less than 5 days where it got over 85 degrees. Last week was the first of june and yet we had a couple 40 degree days. So, i'll stick with cotton and jeans until global warming kicks in. Informative post and i'll remember it the next time i have to go on storm down south. Thanks.

 

[BostonBull]

Has anyone worn/tried smartwools new base layers? They look damn comfy but at $50-$75 a piece they are pricey.

I may try a few shirts this winter.