logging arcioligy two

[slowp]

That Grapple Cat is bossy!

It could be worse. Thank goodness he's a little cat. I'd hate to meet up with a cougar with the same attitude. I'm waiting for the latest flood from the sky to stop so I can run out for some firewood. There was a landslide to the NW of here this morning. Fun in June. :msp_ohmy:

 

[OlympicYJ]

Hangin on the iron pile at home

I'll have more tomarrow lol

Sorry it's not turned correctly lol

 

[tramp bushler]

Yep, and I've had to swede chokers that size, and I've broken them to, but this was 30 years ago. Into much smaller stuff these days,

Hey, you know what puttin a Swede on is. cool. !
It looks a little bigger than 1"+1/8 . We always ran 1,1/4-1,3/8 mainline on the yarders I worked under. . I've set some 1+1/8. . We always tried to get more lift instead of bigger snares .. Easier on the mainline.

that looks like a babbited nubbin.

 

[slowp]

Hangin on the iron pile at home

I'll have more tomarrow lol

Sorry it's not turned correctly lol

All I can see is a red X.

 

[tramp bushler]

all I ser is a blue? mark.

 

[Metals406]

Me no see picture either.

 

[slowp]

all I ser is a blue? mark.

Yer obviously wrong. It is a red X.

Shall we make this a west coast vs east coast thing???:msp_rolleyes: I say it is red! :smile2:

 

[Dave Hadden]

When I started in the logging industry at Gold River we had a Blacksmith working in the shop and he made all the chokers and other assorted lines required to run the six sides operating at the time. That was 1969. As the Warehouseman/Buyer I bought all the rigging materials that old John used, from the knobs and bells to the babbit and wire rope. That old bugger could make darn near anything that required working metal(s) on a forge and I watched him pour babbit into the flared out wire rope just above the knob to firmly attach one to the other many times.
Between old John on the forge and old Reg Pidcock in the machine shop there wasn't much we couldn't make right in the shop.

And the term "Sweded" used in conjunction with the use of chokers meant you hooked the knob from one choker to the bell of another and vice versa in order to increase the "strength" of your chokers. The problem with that is you could overpower the "strength" of your mainline and have the mainline break as a result.
This is exactly what happened at BCFP Port Renfrew in the early '80's when a guy working in the landing was nailed by several hundred feet of mainline that broke at the chokered end and sprung back on him like an elastic band. He was from one of the Finnish families in Port Renfrew and survived the impact even though it tossed him quite a distance when it hit him.
When the post accident inspectors checked things out they found two chokers "Sweded" together on a big old windfall that had been impeding yarding so they'd hooked it up and were trying to move it out of the way.
Neither the chokerman nor the rigging slinger were smart enough to unhook their setup before the inspectors got there so they were caught red-handed.
Totally frowned upon thing to do if not outright against WCB rules I suspect, although I'm not positive about the WCB part.

Couldn't have been much fun setting 1 3/8" or 1 1/2" chokers in big timber methinks.
And that was back in the days when you "ran in for your job (to set the chokers) and "ran out for your life" (before the logs started moving). :biggrin:


Take care.

 

[tramp bushler]

I have used a Swede a few times just to gain that extra little bit of length where I could set the butt figgin on the big fatty we were trying to get to the landing. depending on the show I liked to get em right in the guts. And waddle them in with a slack haulback if logging uphill.

Unfortunatle, in Southeast we did a majority of loggin Downhill.
That was when you have the chocker dogs get double far in the clear, incase the tail holt came down the mountain behind you.

The worst is sidehill/ downhill with big wood and bad tailholt stumps. .
Work a slinger to death fighting them tro the landing.

 

[OlympicYJ]

Not too many this size left int he country. Came out of Simpson's Camp Grisdale and resides in front of our shop these days lol The cat is a construction cat not a logging one. That one is behind the shop :biggrin:

This one and its mate came out of the Promised Land country around Humptulips... Esco manganeese chokers. the pic doesn't do their size justice lol

The butt riggin on the left was what I was tryin to show in my previous post. The stack on top was from somethin back in the steam days but not sure what it came off of lol

Sorry Slowp no trickery intended :tongue2:


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[tramp bushler]

boom chains

on the left looks like some wore out boom chains. Ralph Groshon and Floyd Landphere both logged at Grisdale. Ralph was Siderod at Rowan Bay for guite a while and Floyd tended hook there also.

 

[DavdH]

I have a twin to that arch settin' here. The one we still use but rarely is on rubber. They take a pretty fair road to get down. We have a bunch of arches that size settin' in the yard at the museum, our toys are steam engines and loggin' RR. Here is a horse drawn arch on the left

 

[paccity]

gota couple to.

 

[Samlock]

Neither the chokerman nor the rigging slinger were smart enough to unhook their setup before the inspectors got there so they were caught red-handed.

Yes, one of those things the older guys always emphasized if you're going to apply some illegal solutions with the job. "In case something happens to me, I keep that cover in there, bolt it on before the lurks show up, OK?"

Dave, do you happen to recall any last names of the Finnish families in Port Renfrew? I admit they may be difficult to pronounce, but I know someone who might be interested.

Thanks, Sam.

 

[Dave Hadden]

Only two I can think of right now are Virtanen and Roppenan (sic?), but I think there were one or two more Finnish families there when I was, which was 1976 to 1984.
I'll do some digging and see what I can come up with.

Take care.

 

[Samlock]

Only two I can think of right now are Virtanen and Roppenan (sic?), but I think there were one or two more Finnish families there when I was, which was 1976 to 1984.
I'll do some digging and see what I can come up with.

Take care.

Virtanen is a very common last name. The second may be Ropponen? That's more recognizable, there's a certain area where that name is originally coming from.

Thanks again, Dave.

 

[OlympicYJ]

on the left looks like some wore out boom chains. Ralph Groshon and Floyd Landphere both logged at Grisdale. Ralph was Siderod at Rowan Bay for guite a while and Floyd tended hook there also.

Yea an old chain sling we dug up somewhere lol

Way before my time so I wouldn't know. Lot's of loggers from Grays Harbor were up there. Valentine he's from down here. His sister-in law is my neighbor lol

DavidH They do! we roaded it up from the neighbor who originally got it from Grisdale, used it to log his place with. There were grouser marks in the rd for years! :hmm3grin2orange:

Very nice pac! I only know of one the same size on tracks and that's the next valley over. There is a smaller track arch at the Washington Contract Loggers office in Lacey.

 

[slowp]

The glove is a medium.

The line looks to be 1 inch.

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[Humptulips]

Been gone a few days. I have to say I was wrong. After a second look,yes it is babbited. I need to wear my glasses more I guess.

I have to say the very idea that a swede would be illegal is just silly. Lord protect us from pencil pushers.

Tramp,
Maybe I misunderstood but you seemed to say you gained length in going around a log with a swede. If so that is not a swede. You would be using a bridle.
Using a swede both chokers go clear around the log but are plugged into opposing bells.
Using a bridle one choker goes half way and plugs into the other chokers bell and then its knob continues around to be plugged into the 1st chokers bell.
Bridles tend to put a good kink in your choker so were never popular.

Slowp,
I would bet money those are not inch. The bigger one may be 7/8. The other looks to be 3/4.
The size on the bell means nothing as you can use them different sized line.
I may have to eat my words again if you break out a tape.

 

[tramp bushler]

Hump ; you probably already know this but, your right.
I had a dislexic moment there between the remembering and typeing. , ya know all the spelling and punctuation. tryin t remember what I couldn't remember from 6 grade.

Boy, all this english sure does f@#$ up the loggin. :msp_wink::msp_sad: