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How many saws have you ran that he did? And how many have you ported? Frankly I don't recognize your name. I've run Randy's stuff and its as ggood anyone's. You build one better then we can talk.

The kid is one of those guys who pops up here and there to stir the pot :) He's pretty harmless. He does use a lot of saws though but none of Randys.
 
The kid is one of those guys who pops up here and there to stir the pot :) He's pretty harmless. He does use a lot of saws though but none of Randys.

I understand his second post but to claim a builders saws are weak isn't good choice. Boils down to the fact if he doesn't have any saws from Randy personally there's no reason to claim disappointment. There are some guys who build a particular model a little stouter than others, but that doesn't mean his saws are weak. Nobody has the perfect formula for every saw. What Randy does works obviously or he wouldn't get the amount of work he does.
 
I understand his second post but to claim a builders saws are weak isn't good choice. Boils down to the fact if he doesn't have any saws from Randy personally there's no reason to claim disappointment. There are some guys who build a particular model a little stouter than others, but that doesn't mean his saws are weak. Nobody has the perfect formula for every saw. What Randy does works obviously or he wouldn't get the amount of work he does.

Hey I agree 100% but 056kid and I had some ripper arguments about Dolmar 7900's a few years back with him saying they were crap and me having a swag of hours on them falling. In the end he sent me a PM stating that he was just stirring the pot. There is certainly nothing wrong with Randy's saws and I think he has a really good formula for a work saw focussing on torque on not revs.
The second part of his post is actually quite valid without pointing the finger at or offending any builders.
 
I am a professional timber faller who is interested in saws that produce more than their stock friends. I have run a lot of "ported saws"..

Can you please increase the quality of your avatar, your hinge looks 1° off of horizontal.
 
Its not personal either. Really! Im just disappointed. . All the "saw porters" on as on the east coast seem to build slow saws. I know why too. The client base is uneducated.. example;
Out west, jim runs a 66 and an 84, hes a 3rd gen OG faller, he knows a lot!
In NC Ed runs the same saws, but the biggest thing he has ever cut is a 4' red oak about 110 feet tall and that was in his friends back yard.
Now jim has saws that would make ed soil himself, ed has saws that ed thinks are badass. Unfortunately ed & jim will never meet so ed will go on thinking his saws are strong. And to reinforce eds thoughts, many dozens of his friends agree with him..
I believe this is a case of a big ed market. There are no jims to step out and call BS..

Which builders are building such great saws from the west coast Ted? I bought a couple from out there that got spanked by east coast builders saws.
 
I built a 660 several years ago that WILL beat a mm 660. And I bet on that..

It probably should beat a muffler modded 660 too.

One area I rarely see modified by many builders is the carby where huge gains can be made. Unfortunately if a buyer pays USD$250 for a saw build they probably don't want to pay an extra USD$250 to get the carby modified properly. I've seen some saws with stock carbies and then properly prepared carbies and it was unreal at the difference with the carby the only change.
 
Which builders are building such great saws from the west coast Ted? I bought a couple from out there that got spanked by east coast builders saws.
Dude honestly. Your a weekend warrior. You have no chances of getting a good port job in a small west coast community....
There ARE builders all over the west coast who build saws that east coast cookie cutters will NEVER know of...
 
Who are the west coast builders? I've had a hard time finding any that work on the new Stihl's


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Dude honestly. Your a weekend warrior. You have no chances of getting a good port job in a small west coast community....
There ARE builders all over the west coast who build saws that east coast cookie cutters will NEVER know of...

What does a saw build cost over that side of the country?
 
Big Trees on the West Coast but aren't most of them soft? I did a search for the common "logged species on the West Coast".

Sierra Pacific Industries' privately-owned forests are located in California and Washington. Take a look at the most common types of trees grown on these lands:
Major conifer species:
Other tree species:
 
"056 kid, post: 4622925, member: 5087"]Dude honestly. Your a weekend warrior. You have no chances of getting a good port job in a small west coast community....
There ARE builders all over the west coast who build saws that east coast cookie cutters will NEVER know of...[/quote]
Dipchit end of story.....
 
I'm curious as to the reason for that???
I've emailed them hopefully they'll get back. I was under the impression in certain situations the spikes can catch and jam the saw in place, say a large log rolling or some such. It's something I've heard mentioned over the years from different sources. I'll see what I can find
 
I've emailed them hopefully they'll get back. I was under the impression in certain situations the spikes can catch and jam the saw in place, say a large log rolling or some such. It's something I've heard mentioned over the years from different sources. I'll see what I can find

I thought you may have heard it from Sawtroll as he thinks felling spikes are put on saws for decoration! (Hi Niko ;))
 

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