For what it's worth. Someone over at HOH complained they had several chips go bad almost instantly. It's been a while so I'm short on memory. I think he mentioned that the instructions said not to mount it too close to the coil. Then he said he couldn't find a place to mount it, so he mounted it on top of the coil. I put one on one of my Super 1050's more than ten years ago and it still runs fine. I ran the wire out from under the flywheel and screwed it to a small hole that was already in the case. Then my JD 265 started running bad and the guy I bought it from said it was the electronic module. He also said not to get it from JD they were very expensive. I told him I had an extra Nova II. He said that it would work. I ran that tractor 4-5 hours a day all mowing season for almost ten years, and it just went bad. Got a new Nova II for $16, and the tractor is running fine again. So, the 3 chips I've used worked flawlessly. Just try to mount them as far from the coil as you can.Well I'm working on a 1-41, put the new coil kit in it ... Haha no spark.
I believe that leaves the points , even though I filed ,gapped and set them its the only original part in the ignition system left. I have a ignition chip but I'm hesitant to use it after reading others misshaps.View attachment 743711 View attachment 743712 View attachment 743713 View attachment 743714
I'm starting to think I need a lesson too. I struggle with them. My pioneer 600 that I'm worki g on has good strong spark and I got it running but it needs crank seals. I'm hesitant to go near the points for fear of losing spark. My 1-52 ran when i got it but i wanted to proactively replace the cranks seals, all i did was remove and reinstall/gap the points and it never made spark again. Got frustrated and put a module in it.For the longest time I was a chip advocate simply because they were the newer of technology compared to points which have been around for well over 100 yrs.I also didn't know how to properly clean & set the points till my good friend Tim (fossil) showed me how.Now I'm a points advocate,simply because they're tried & true.Some of the saws I've got I'm sure have the original set of points in them for well over 50 yrs.,& after tey were cleaned & re-gapped I'm sure they'll be good for another 30 + yrs.I'm a firm believer in - if it ain't broke don't fix it.So if the points are still working after all these yrs.,why change to something that could be uncertain?The original reason why the chip was developed was to replace points that were NLA.In this instance I can see using a chip.
Ed
If the condenser was original it probably went bad.I'll just bet if you put those points back in with a new condenser you'd be back in business again.Do you have a capitance tester?It'll tell you if your condenser is bad.I'm starting to think I need a lesson too. I struggle with them. My pioneer 600 that I'm worki g on has good strong spark and I got it running but it needs crank seals. I'm hesitant to go near the points for fear of losing spark. My 1-52 ran when i got it but i wanted to proactively replace the cranks seals, all i did was remove and reinstall/gap the points and it never made spark again. Got frustrated and put a module in it.
I haven't put a chip in a saw since the 1050. If points are available, I stick with the points too. I've found that original points last darn near forever. But, I hate sanding and filing them. Maybe I don't get them smooth enough. Seems filed points don't last long. Just saying my limited use of the chips were good experiences.Well here is my experience with the Nova II chips. When I first got into the MAC biz was when I first heard of them. At that time I had 2. 10-10's and a PM-55. I thought heck get rid of the points, that would be a great thing, so I put them in each of my saws. They worked great and seamed to have a hotter spark and started better. I placed them where the capacitor was mounted. I got the PM-55 out and it was great until it just shut off, no spark. Got one of the 10-10's out and it ran good for a while and quit. No spark. Both was the chip bad so I went back to the points. A couple years later I wound up with a 510 that had no spark and it was the points and they were burnt up. Well I had the chip out of the 10-10 that was the last 10-10 that I had switched back to points that the chip was still good. I thought until I found a set of points for the 510 I would put that chip in, just to start it and hear it run. I also had read somewhere that heat would kill those chips so I mounted it in front of the fuel tanks where there was little heat. It has ran 2 years with that chip in it without a problem.
So I do believe that heat will kill them and where I had them mounted on the first 10-10 and the PM-55 was just too much heat. I see them on mowers coming from the factory and they work well for a long time. I think I just mounted the ones on the 10-10s and the PM-55 in an area where there was too much heat. I have thought about giving them another try, but for now the points are working fine and I do not want to get out and have problems.
Brian
This + 1 Some of us grew up on points and know they are reliable. Old coils, or more often, condensors go bad, new ones are almost never a problem. Back in the day condensed rarely gave an issue. Chips bother me a lot more than points. Points must be clean and free of oil. Be aware that some electical spray cleaners have a lubricant that should be removed from the surface of the points or they won't work.If the condenser was original it probably went bad.I'll just bet if you put those points back in with a new condenser you'd be back in business again.Do you have a capitance tester?It'll tell you if your condenser is bad.
Ed
My C72 smells like Stihl 50:1 synthetic.We’ve used the atom chip for decades. I have an old blue c5 homelite I’d like to put a chip in it.
Let no saw die before it’s time. I like the smell of the old 30wt oil when these old timers first start up. They smell like a saw perfume........chip it and run it then shelve it. I love America.
I had an Atom module on an 1130g that ran well until in wood then it would cut out with a strange regular miss.We’ve used the atom chip for decades. I have an old blue c5 homelite I’d like to put a chip in it.
Let no saw die before it’s time. I like the smell of the old 30wt oil when these old timers first start up. They smell like a saw perfume........chip it and run it then shelve it. I love America.
It does have an auto Oiler simelar to the 795, 797. It doesn’t have the decompression valve.The bore would suggest a 797 but I don't see the automatic oiler on the top of the oil tank. The block has obviously been replaced but the number does not agree with what I have for the 797 (66251). Saw has been reworked a time or two...
Mark
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