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Thanks for the bar info Jim, certainly sounds like a bit of work. I think for the time being I will continue to modify 10 Series bars when I have a spare and need something to fit the bigger saws. It seems that just filing the slot to fit the larger studs will make most of the longer 10 Series bars fit the large frame saws.

There is a McCulloch bar spacer kit, 92220 or something like that to make thinner bars work on the older saws. Basically just what you did, the bar plates without the angled flanges at the top and bottom. I have use the modified 10 Series bars with spacers on a couple of bars so far, one 32" currently on the Super 797 and once on a 28" bar I left on the SP105 that I traded for the Super 797.

Mark
 
Eccentric, thanks for your encouragement to give it another go. My ring compressor is on the bench in the picture below. If you don’t recognize it there is a hint in the last picture.
Belgian, an East Tennessee use for full wrap bars is simply to keep your saw upright in the back of your firewood truck. Didn’t really appreciate this until this past week, every time I looked by half wrap was on its side sliding around while the full wrap saws just took the rough ride in style.
Everyone, I don’t know how you keep up with so many project saws. But I am beginning to understand why you may have so many. In my quest to build a saw with the NOS PM850 cylinder I chanced upon, I acquired a PM570 to provide the “chassis”. After looking the PM570 over, I couldn’t just junk it so I bought a burned up 10-10 for the 570 motor. After a $60 trip to NAPA for necessary expendables, I assembled with lots of help from this site the 570 only to discover that the crankcase is different than a 10-10 –duh! So I am now putting the 570 together and I’ll look for another donor saw for my real project. I’m sure you been there, but after disassembling the 570 again due to the oil pump valve grinning from the bench I proceed to lose one of the small intake screws – I spent the next two hours looking for it including disassembling the saw a third time to see if it was lodged in somewhere. It wasn’t. Never did find the screw even after sweeping the floor. Finally gave up late last night and tried to start it – no fire. Now why didn’t I start there first? I changed out the coil from the 10-10 but still no fire. Today, I filed the points and swapped the condenser. FIRE! And it will start with a prime, so I guess I’ll rebuild the carb this week. By the way, I discovered the reason the 570 had next to no compression – the top piston ring was broken.
Below are some pictures of my Labor Day workout with my PM800’s. Spend more time hauling and unloading than I did cutting but I really enjoyed the power advantage of these saws over my PM700 and my 036 Pro. I did a little tweeting to the frame of my favorite 800 when a 20” stem rolled on me. The culprit was attached to the tree in the next to last picture. It was my last tree – 42” at my last cut to sever it from the twelve foot root ball that wanted to fall into me instead of righting itself as most of the other trees did. A little vice and hammer work should fix the 800.
Pictures in order: 2 shots of 570 and ring compressor; firewood site and this week’s hauling left; Labor Day’s hauls; tweeted 800; culprit and ring compressor donor.
Thanks again for all the helpful advice and good reading.
Ron
Picture continue in next post.

Excellent job with the 'custom' ring compressor. Way to adapt and overcome!!!:cheers:

Really diggin' the firewood and the Truck (in this case, "truck" must be capitalized) pics.:clap:
 
Here's a few pics from today's McCulloch 77 tinkering...

Sorry for the blurry pics. Still learning how to run this camera. I was somewhat rushed as well..............since I was watching the Girls too...



Removed the muffler and shot a couple pics of the piston. No burns, transfer, or scoring. Yeehaw!!! Looked inside the jug and it looks fantastic as well.:cheers:

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This is the other reason I removed the muffler (aside from checkin' the Piston/Cylinder/Rings). I had ran the saw a few times before noticing this HUGE mud-dauber wasp nest inside. Luckily, nothing had broken off of it and gotten into the jug. It was attached to a baffle inside...

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Tried to take some comparison pics of the 5/8" chain with the 1/4" chain on my teeny Poulan XX. Didn't realy work. Yes I realize the chain is going 'the wrong way' on the Mac 77 bar. It's not mounted on the saw.....and I wanted to have the cutters facing the same way as the 1/4" stuff for comparison, so I flipped the bar/chain over fer the pic. The bar and chain look better "in person". Gonna clean that oily rusty crap off...

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Replaced the fuel line and cleaned out the 'screen' side of the carb, as well as the check valve. The check valve is just a spring loaded plate within a large threaded plug. The plate is held against a ring shaped seat in the diaphragm chamber body. Pretty neat, and not much to realy go wrong there. Lotsa skanky 'syrup' inside............but no screen. Screen cover gasket weeps now. :censored:

Saw now fires on the first pull every time. Roars on the prime mist, and then falls on its face (still), as the diaphragm chamber still ain't pumping and/or the venturi orifices be clogged. Gotta get in there and clean things out. That's gonna be uber-fun, as half the damn saw chassis has to come apart for that. Yay overengineered Mac carbs!:dizzy:
 
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Eccentric suggested that I make a ring compressor out of something. The caulk tube was the closest fit I could find; so I cut off the bottom and split it. You can see it in the background.

Yes, although I haven't checked the serial number to verify that it is a 800. I don't know if someone added the compression release, which I don't think is typical for an 800, but everything else including the chainbrake appears to be correct for an 800. You can't see it but a prior owner hacked out a slot in the chainbrake for the release valve. Ron

Ron,

so, are you wondering if it might be a 850? I know the smaller saws (700/750 etc) did NOT have the antivibe or big foot plate...

the Double Eagle 80 did though :D I want onea those :)

yeah, LOVE the TRUCK :)

J
 
rwoods truck

Those big old deuces are a wonder. First time I was Mayor of our small town I drove one a lot. Plowing snow mostly. They don't have a lot of power, but the way it is used in the low gearing it makes for an almost unstoppable truck. Ours didn't have a heater, so the maintenance man mounted a radiator from an old Dodge truck and a fan in front of the passenger seat. Even plowing at 25 below zero you had to open the windows. JR
 
Mac block ID
63629 3581

I am assuming 795-895 but it has a longer stroke then my 895?

Thanks guys
 
Getting ready to put a 10-10 together, and noticed there is no cylinder gasket. When I took it apart there was some sort of silicon sealing it. What would be a good sealant to use? And should the seals be put in after the cylinder and case is back together or put them in during assembly.
 
got my super 250 running today with the help of a carb kit. that tread of heimannm,s on the mac carb helped a bunch so thank you Mark. i still need to find a bar and chain for the final tune but its running pretty good.:cheers:
 
Ron,

so, are you wondering if it might be a 850? I know the smaller saws (700/750 etc) did NOT have the antivibe or big foot plate...

the Double Eagle 80 did though :D I want onea those :)

yeah, LOVE the TRUCK :)

J

I checked the model number and it appears to be consistent with an 800 although someone could have changed the tank. If so, it could be a Super PM850 but not the original 850 as the newer cowling requires a screw boss that the older 850 don’t have. Anyway who knows with McCulloch – my DE80 doesn’t have a DSP although the IPL only shows a DSP configuration. My 8200 doesn’t have a DSP either and its IPL shows both configurations. I haven’t pulled the muffler on the 800, but I have a toasted 800 that I have compared with the earlier 850 and the SP81. The exhaust port of the 800 has a small enlargement at the top center about the size of a typical round file. I don’t know what I am talking about for sure but I assume this change was made to ease starting without overly reducing running compression if there is such a thing.
The Truck is good to get in and out of the woods, winch and pull logs but the bed is pretty high for hand loading.
Ron
 
McCulloch PM805

Hi all,

I came across this Pro Mac 805 the other day in my travels, and had to have it. I have heard good things about this line of Macs, so thought I would see for myself. The saw is in great original condition, and appears to have been well looked after mechanically. It fired up nicely and is a smooth runner. It definitely takes the title of being the most quiet McCulloch saw in my bunch.

Regards,

Chris.

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Here's one!

Bottom of the saw has stamped
140 on it. Any clue as to the ID
I am not sure of series but she a gear drive!
 
Hi Matt,

Is it possible that the saw has a 1-40 cylinder? Do you have any photo's of the unit in question?

Regards,

Chris.

No photos till fri-sat.
Took it in on a squaring up.
What series would the 140 stamped cylinder fit?
The gear boxes from what little bit I know don't fit the 1-40 series saws??

After a good look over on my gear drives, I am believing it to be a misread stamping!
Possibly a 640 of sort!! FREAKIN MACS!!!!!
 
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No photos till fri-sat.
Took it in on a squaring up.
What series would the 140 stamped cylinder fit?
The gear boxes from what little bit I know don't fit the 1-40 series saws??

After a good look over on my gear drives, I am believing it to be a misread stamping!
Possibly a 640 of sort!! FREAKIN MACS!!!!!

Yes -It can be like wheel of fortune when you get hold of one of these old Mac saws! I picked up what I thought was a standard 640 not long ago - but after a good clean, found out it was a 1-63 cylinder and gearcase assy - fitted with the 640 auto oiler, and tank assembly. The interchangeability of the components means no end of possible combinations.

I do have a 640 parts saw which would make this one 'original' again, but think I will leave it the way it is.

Regards,

Chris.
 
The CP versions of the 10 series had the same AV as the PM81. Some of the AV parts and frame for my 81 project are from a CP55.

CP? i'm all sorts of confused with the 'CP versions of the 10-series'... :confused:

63629 is a 795 or 895
Should have decomp.
What did you measure for a stroke?


Lee

Matt, never happened without pics!!

Getting ready to put a 10-10 together, and noticed there is no cylinder gasket. When I took it apart there was some sort of silicon sealing it. What would be a good sealant to use? And should the seals be put in after the cylinder and case is back together or put them in during assembly.

Brian, I can answer the 1st part :) Threebond is EXCELLENT, some have put GALLONS of mix through saws with just Permatex ULTRA with NO issues, but I'd think the FORM-A-GASKET would be better, as it's fuel &oil resistant.


I checked the model number and it appears to be consistent with an 800 although someone could have changed the tank. If so, it could be a Super PM850 but not the original 850 as the newer cowling requires a screw boss that the older 850 don’t have. Anyway who knows with McCulloch – my DE80 doesn’t have a DSP although the IPL only shows a DSP configuration. My 8200 doesn’t have a DSP either and its IPL shows both configurations. I haven’t pulled the muffler on the 800, but I have a toasted 800 that I have compared with the earlier 850 and the SP81. The exhaust port of the 800 has a small enlargement at the top center about the size of a typical round file. I don’t know what I am talking about for sure but I assume this change was made to ease starting without overly reducing running compression if there is such a thing.
The Truck is good to get in and out of the woods, winch and pull logs but the bed is pretty high for hand loading.
Ron

Ron, reminds me of Chris' 805...hmmm..


Hi all,

I came across this Pro Mac 805 the other day in my travels, and had to have it. I have heard good things about this line of Macs, so thought I would see for myself. The saw is in great original condition, and appears to have been well looked after mechanically. It fired up nicely and is a smooth runner. It definitely takes the title of being the most quiet McCulloch saw in my bunch.

Regards,

Chris.


She's a beauty chris!! I don't get any cool big(er) late models round here...

is this one of the BLACK AND DECKER Macs?? my PM700 and 10-10S are..

J
 

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