Mini skid steer loader

[RAG66]

sorry duplicate subject!!

 

[Grace Tree]

Here's a thread about minis from yesterday that may give you some info. Also, if you use the Search function there's probably enough reading to keep you busy.
Regards,
Phil
Mini Skid Thread

 

[outofmytree]

Iwas just wondering If there was a good portion of the industry that uses mini skid steer loaders? If so what are the popular brands? I know who makes them but which ones are in use daily and working good. Another question is has anyone done any small stumps with the stump grinder attachment? I have a chance to get a low hours machine for what I think is a good price, my biggest use would be for backyard wood hauls which I do at least 6 or more times per year. It seems to me to be a big advantage for hauling and loading into the truck.

I own a Toro TX420 (Dingo to you) and strongly recommend this machine. In the same breath I strongly condemn the hydraulic stump grinding head. I could have bought a handle bar Bandit, Vermeer or Stumphumper (local machine) for a little more than the head and done much, much more work. My loader is awesome for moving blocks and my HB20 is awesome for small stumps.

 

[B-Edwards]

Outofmytree there is guy on the forum who makes a stump attachment with a seperate engine on it and it is pictured on a dingo or mini skid. I think you can search sandvik and find it. I always thought it would be an awesome attachment for someone with a mini. I think it had ? 30 hp gas engine on it.

 

[treevet]

Outofmytree there is guy on the forum who makes a stump attachment with a seperate engine on it and it is pictured on a dingo or mini skid. I think you can search sandvik and find it. I always thought it would be an awesome attachment for someone with a mini. I think it had ? 30 hp gas engine on it.

I think it 38 hp. Looks great but the price? I think it is over $ll,000.00. Ouch.

PS..also tried the dingo hyd stumper and it is not very good.

 

[Dutch295]

I think it 38 hp. Looks great but the price? I think it is over $ll,000.00. Ouch.

PS..also tried the dingo hyd stumper and it is not very good.

I bought one (see attached below). I paid $10K for it at the expo in Baltimore. If I recall Dave was offering a 10% show discount and I'd like to think it was my easy going charm that got him down another G. He'll probably say he got tired of me poor mouthing the crap out of him. If you look at the price of the Bandit 2100, Vermeer SC352, and the Carlton 4012 that $12,200 asking price starts to look pretty good. Space was a big issue for me... I plan on mounting it on the tongue of my chipper and hopefully this will allow me to get everything to the job site in one shot with one truck. So far I'm very pleased with it's performance.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=117840&highlight=tne

B-Edwards, if you are ever over this way , you are more than welcome to take a look at it.... I'm about 45 minutes east of Raleigh.

 

[treevet]

I bought one (see attached below). I paid $10K for it at the expo in Baltimore. If I recall Dave was offering a 10% show discount and I'd like to think it was my easy going charm that got him down another G. He'll probably say he got tired of me poor mouthing the crap out of him. If you look at the price of the Bandit 2100, Vermeer SC352, and the Carlton 4012 that $12,200 asking price starts to look pretty good. Space was a big issue for me... I plan on mounting it on the tongue of my chipper and hopefully this will allow me to get everything to the job site in one shot with one truck. So far I'm very pleased with it's performance.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=117840&highlight=tne

B-Edwards, if you are ever over this way , you are more than welcome to take a look at it.... I'm about 45 minutes east of Raleigh.

There is no question that Norgaard stumper is the hot set up. The price is the deal breaker for me right now. I just think of all I could do with that kind of money. But hell if I get stupid rich like I was during our hurricane I would definitely buy one. Again, like said on your other thread....keep us posted on your continued satisfaction.opcorn:

I prob would have been more inclined to get one if I bought the mini like you did for less than the stumper. I bought mine new for around $23k

 

[treevet]

I have 3 grapples, the third being the hydraulic tree ball pincher that we use all the time planting (if anyone is interested), real happy with the functions this performs too.

 

[sgreanbeans]

Treevet, I would like more info on your B&B setup, I do alot of planting as well, use a skidloader, gonna buy a mini this year, want a standard grapple,auger,BMG and that attachment you have and I think I will be set!

 

[treevet]

Treevet, I would like more info on your B&B setup, I do alot of planting as well, use a skidloader, gonna buy a mini this year, want a standard grapple,auger,BMG and that attachment you have and I think I will be set!

All I can tell you sgreanbeans is that it is very useful if you do a lot of planting and the cost is less than the grapples (I have heard some use it as a grapple). Grapples are virtually unusable with a root ball and we all know how tough it is to move them on a bucket.

We have unloaded large flatbeds with large root balls then stage the balled trees in one spot, go all over the planting site, dig the holes with a stump grinder (makes a real nice backfill) and then drive the tree to the hole, center the ball....and release.

 

[B-Edwards]

I bought one (see attached below). I paid $10K for it at the expo in Baltimore. If I recall Dave was offering a 10% show discount and I'd like to think it was my easy going charm that got him down another G. He'll probably say he got tired of me poor mouthing the crap out of him. If you look at the price of the Bandit 2100, Vermeer SC352, and the Carlton 4012 that $12,200 asking price starts to look pretty good. Space was a big issue for me... I plan on mounting it on the tongue of my chipper and hopefully this will allow me to get everything to the job site in one shot with one truck. So far I'm very pleased with it's performance.

http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=117840&highlight=tne

B-Edwards, if you are ever over this way , you are more than welcome to take a look at it.... I'm about 45 minutes east of Raleigh.

Nice Dutch. Hey if I am out that way I may give ya a call and watch that badboy grind. I still have my 4400-4 with remote so I am not in the market but I can see where this thing would fill a gap and do a great job by the looks of it. Would be nice if you could put remote on the boxer so you get out of the dust while grinding. Still a very nice looking setup!!!

 

[treevet]

great idea....remotes on the mini. I have a remote on my big stumper and could never do without it after having one.

 

[tntree]

Treevet, I would like more info on your B&B setup, I do alot of planting as well, use a skidloader, gonna buy a mini this year, want a standard grapple,auger,BMG and that attachment you have and I think I will be set!

Beans, I have an attachment for you to consider. Hopefully you AS guys can have an open mind. This is a prototype twist on the BMG that will move B&Bs but also double as a brush and log Grapple.
It is so different then any thing out there I think its tough for most people to understand the concept and its practicality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJEKJNW8GPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqg9vybfNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGAtLrxdHSU

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of it moving Brush and logs. plenty of other vids of the BMG doing that, Also I suck at uploading videos at least combining them

 

[outofmytree]

Outofmytree there is guy on the forum who makes a stump attachment with a seperate engine on it and it is pictured on a dingo or mini skid. I think you can search sandvik and find it. I always thought it would be an awesome attachment for someone with a mini. I think it had ? 30 hp gas engine on it.

Yes there are a couple of this type of head that I am aware of. They work well. The one both TV and myself were referring to is one that runs solely on the hydraulic flow from the loader and is just not up to the work that professionals would put it through. Perhaps if trees were a small portion of your busniess it would be ok.

 

[treevet]

Beans, I have an attachment for you to consider. Hopefully you AS guys can have an open mind. This is a prototype twist on the BMG that will move B&Bs but also double as a brush and log Grapple.
It is so different then any thing out there I think its tough for most people to understand the concept and its practicality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJEKJNW8GPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqg9vybfNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGAtLrxdHSU

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of it moving Brush and logs. plenty of other vids of the BMG doing that, Also I suck at uploading videos at least combining them

the "concept" appears to be that it is a BMG that locks in place laterally and horizontal to the ground?

 

[treevet]

Yes there are a couple of this type of head that I am aware of. They work well. The one both TV and myself were referring to is one that runs solely on the hydraulic flow from the loader and is just not up to the work that professionals would put it through. Perhaps if trees were a small portion of your busniess it would be ok.

and if all the trees were relatively small and you kept the teeth very sharp it would be useful. I think they are quite cheap used when people tire of them.

 

[outofmytree]

and if all the trees were relatively small and you kept the teeth very sharp it would be useful. I think they are quite cheap used when people tire of them.

Lol. I bet they make good boat anchors too!

 

[sgreanbeans]

That was pretty cool TNT, we don't use bags here, mainly B&B and hard container's, I also likes the one TREEVET has, seems they both would make life a lot easier, cant wait till weather breaks, so I can try these out and decide which one I like.

 

[outofmytree]

My objection to the Branch Manager style grapple was the loss of lift due to increased boom length and the loss of height due to the grapple hanging below the adaptor plate on the loader lift arms. For grabbing logs and sliding them into the chipper it was great. Pretty good at unpicking brush/log piles after using a decent sized bucket to put a big E.marginata on the ground too. I did find the tendency to twist the hoses around a bit of a pest though.

Best all round bucket I have tried out and plan to buy is one made by Digga who own the Kanga branded mini loaders. It is a grapple bucket and has a really wide gape, strong base tines and allows you to pick up the largest blocks your machine can handle and lift them higher than any other model I have seen. I have some ideas I will try out to improve its brush grabbing ability.... Now all I need is a couple of thousand spare ......

 

[treevet]

My objection to the Branch Manager style grapple was the loss of lift due to increased boom length and the loss of height due to the grapple hanging below the adaptor plate on the loader lift arms. For grabbing logs and sliding them into the chipper it was great. Pretty good at unpicking brush/log piles after using a decent sized bucket to put a big E.marginata on the ground too. I did find the tendency to twist the hoses around a bit of a pest though.

Best all round bucket I have tried out and plan to buy is one made by Digga who own the Kanga branded mini loaders. It is a grapple bucket and has a really wide gape, strong base tines and allows you to pick up the largest blocks your machine can handle and lift them higher than any other model I have seen. I have some ideas I will try out to improve its brush grabbing ability.... Now all I need is a couple of thousand spare ......

That is similar to what I have Doc. I do not see that as a grapple "bucket" tho?