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Originally posted by netree
But Mike... have you?

If you had two job applicants, the first one handed every cut, and the other made a point not to cut one handed. Assume they both had equal production.
Which of the two climbers do you think wears his seat belt while driving around?
Which would you hope was your son, if one had to be?
 
Besides not answerin the question, her is my thing


Running a saw, like the 200, any skilled opperator should be able to make most cuts with one hand, without any risk to the operator.


The saws reactions are predictable. It either pushes (on top) pulls (on bottom) or kicks (tip). Any skilled operator will realize what the saw will do before he starts cutting, and either change the cut, or plan accordingly.


What makes one handing unsafe? Kickback, anything else?



Carl
 
Originally posted by netree
Mike... are you trying to say you've NEVER ONCE one-handed a top-handled chainsaw?

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Our crew, myself inclusive, do our best to follow ASNI standards. We reinforce our actions by trying to catch each other missing rules. We have safety meeting each week to talk it over. Outside trainers like FISTA are brought in to observe and correct bad work habits. Empolyees that resist safety habits are let go.

Does that help?
 
Originally posted by Lumberjack
Besides not answerin the question, her is my thing


Running a saw, like the 200, any skilled opperator should be able to make most cuts with one hand, without any risk to the operator.


The saws reactions are predictable. It either pushes (on top) pulls (on bottom) or kicks (tip). Any skilled operator will realize what the saw will do before he starts cutting, and either change the cut, or plan accordingly.


What makes one handing unsafe? Kickback, anything else?



Carl

Kickback occours 7 times faster than you can react. By the time you know it happened, blood is running down your face.
 
Um no that doesn't answer it.


You said:

I'm saying you never HAVE to one hand, and should strive to never one hand.
It does take more skill, but with practice, it can be done. Tie in high, use your lanyard. If you can position yourself skillfully, you can make the cut with two hands and do it faster than the one handed fool.


Eric askes :
Mike... are you trying to say you've NEVER ONCE one-handed a top-handled chainsaw?


The question means have you ever used one hand on a top handled saw.


Not that hard for someone so great, me thinks.


Carl
 
Assuming the saw is in-line with your face... not very likely if you're one-handing the saw, since you'd be doing it with the saw well away from your body, most likely.
 
Originally posted by Mike Maas
Kickback occours 7 times faster than you can react. By the time you know it happened, blood is running down your face.


Um.... Most of the time I run the saw to my side, not directly in front of me.

So kickback happens in .03-.05 of a sec. How hard is it to prevent. If that is your only thing, then add a shield to make it impossible to cut with the tip. However unskilled I am, I can still keep the tip from making contact.

Carl
 
Despite all the pro chain out there, I still run 91 safety on my top-handles anyways.

Not for worry about kickback, but becuase it produces less vibration.
 
Actually, in the interest of eliminating kickback, I have cut off the part of the bar that causes it completely.

:D
 
I too run the saftey on my smaller saws. They stay sharper longer (IMO) and offer reduced chance of kickback.


Anybody else notice they stay sharper longer, however they cut slightly slower?


Carl
 
Carl, the suggestions I make are only for people other than you. See, you are like Superman, and we all know he is indestructable. All others though should use some caution when running a saw.

Erik, I once hit a racoon with my saw, trust me, blood will be everywhere.
 

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