If so, maybe Sap is the foster parent and HBRN the day care provider?
Murphy's Law: Who Is In Charge of Your Woodpile?
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If so, maybe Sap is the foster parent and HBRN the day care provider?
darkbyrd
Forest Hugger
In the middle of the night, in the middle of (what passes for) winter? Maybe you are crazy as they say.
Arbonaut
Go Climb It
Who's in charge of your woodpile? I'm asking the questions.
Jakers
Owner - Arbor Jake's Tree Service, LLC
this is almost as good as the good bye thread that just got deleted in the chainsaw section. im here for the show
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darkbyrd
Forest Hugger
Me. If I cut it, haul it up the hill or hump it out of the woods, it is mine to split and stack. The hard work is already done, so put some tunes on the headphones, fire up the burn barrel, and chill for a cord or two. If my brother wants to do the hard work, he can have the easy work then.
R2D
North pole greens keeper
The Illinois Master Gardener program is an educational, volunteer program offered by University of Illinois Extension. The program is designed to increase the availability of university-based horticultural information to local communities and individuals through trained volunteers known as Master Gardeners.
Is it for me? Anyone can become a Master Gardener – you don't need a degree in horticulture! You do, however, need to:
* Have a sincere desire to learn and share home horticulture information.
* Have practical experience or knowledge of gardening.
* Be willing to follow U of I pest control recommendations and home horticulture information.
* Be able to communicate effectively.
* Devote time to training sessions and volunteering.
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Is it for me? Anyone can become a Master Gardener – you don't need a degree in horticulture! You do, however, need to:
* Have a sincere desire to learn and share home horticulture information.
* Have practical experience or knowledge of gardening.
* Be willing to follow U of I pest control recommendations and home horticulture information.
* Be able to communicate effectively.
* Devote time to training sessions and volunteering.
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Ductape
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deerlakejens
ArboristSite Operative
I'll raise your UI Extension Master Gardener (which is a good program) with a BS in Entomology specializing in Integrated Pest Management from Purdue. The aim of IPM is never "With the EAB Beetle, my suggestion follows this professional integrated pest management philosophy-destroy as much of the disease causing organism as you can." Just the opposite, IPM principles involve reducing targeted pest populations to threshold levels dictated by the age and health of the plant. You need to go back to repeat which ever week you covered this program because you missed the most important concept.
Arbonaut
Go Climb It
You shoulda been the only post here today, not the last.
An IPM system should be comprehensive, and not just the last line of defense. People should have been using cultural practices in these trouble areas for years, like keeping all the logging tops cleaned up off the forest floor. How about planting resistant Ash cultivars to replace the ones that need taken out?
No real pesticides are being used in forests here, so most the beneficial insects are intact. That is preliminary. The vector is already present, thats why, I'm suggesting mechanical control and control through cultural practice--thinning. I'm not wasting all that wood, unless it is made illegal here to burn. I like you alot more than I did. Thanks for the post.
An IPM system should be comprehensive, and not just the last line of defense. People should have been using cultural practices in these trouble areas for years, like keeping all the logging tops cleaned up off the forest floor. How about planting resistant Ash cultivars to replace the ones that need taken out?
No real pesticides are being used in forests here, so most the beneficial insects are intact. That is preliminary. The vector is already present, thats why, I'm suggesting mechanical control and control through cultural practice--thinning. I'm not wasting all that wood, unless it is made illegal here to burn. I like you alot more than I did. Thanks for the post.
woodbooga
cords of mystic memory
After reading contracts all day, you'd think I could grasp this. But it seems wonky. What's it mean in laymans? Seems to add value, but vague.
Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
Mr OIBC, Sir!
Shouldn't you be out with your little net snagging bugs?
From what I've read on the borer (and I'm by no means an expert - but I have a working knowledge that is subject to further learning or correction), "keeping all the logging tops cleaned up off the forest floor" would not have solved this problem, as those pesky borers much prefer live growing trees.
"Planting resistant ash cultivars to replace the ones that need taken out" - just exactly which ash species would they be? Also, if they are not native ash species, what is the possible damage done by introducing yet another exotic and possibly invasive species to the current ecosystem?
"I'm suggesting mechanical control and control through cultural practice--thinning." I suggest instead of moving to MN, you should move to Michigan, where you could thin all you want, practically border to border. There aren't hundreds, or thousands, but quite literally millions of trees for you to thin, thanks to EAB. You're gonna need a LOT bigger boiler, maybe plumb it to heat a mid sized city. The folks of say, Kalamazoo (always thought that was a cool name), will thank you for the free heat.
teascouts
Addicted to ArboristSite
LMAO, The move to MI is not advisable, as there is not much Ash left to thin. You could move to WI and stay in Steve's shed where I'm sure he would feed you cheese and beer. I'm all for nuking the EAB. Inject them with radioavtive isotopes with a remote control device and hit the button, "A thousand points of light." Kalamazoo used to be the home of Gibson guitars and Checker cabs...ah, those were the days.
avalancher
Arboristsite Raconteur
Well Duh, havent you been listening? Master TV land says so!
Burning the beetle doesn’t accomplish cold squat except to give the guy holding the match a certain false sense of satisfaction. By the time the bug has killed the tree many generations of offspring have already moved on to other healthier trees. Cleaning up tops? Folly! The bug isn’t gonna’ infest dead tops… they only survive by means of live wood. Planting resistant cultivars? Good lord I hope not. That was tried with DED and now we have Siberian Elm growing like weeds and cross breeding with Red Elm, choking out other native species of Flora… which in turn is threatening the future of certain Fauna.
As of now, the only defense we have is to not aid in the spread… especially across natural barriers such as the Mississippi River (too late for that now). Moving (ash) firewood from infested areas into non-infested areas speeds the spread… only an idiot refuses to understand that. It isn’t possible (now) to slow the spread, but there isn’t any excuses for the fool that acts in such a way as to speed the spread. When someone moves ash firewood from infested to non-infested areas they simply shorten the time I have left to enjoy the ash trees in my woodlot… which makes them as irresponsible as a drunk holding a loaded gun in one hand and a steering wheel in the other.
Maybe, just maybe, science will develop a true “cure” for the problem before the bug gets to my area. I’ll tell you this, if science does come up with that “cure” after my ash trees are wiped-out, and I hear of someone that acted irresponsible during previous months/years… I’m gonna’ hunt them down, cover them with honey, split their gut and stake ‘em to an ant hill.
You might as well stay in southern Illinois Woodcutter TV, I've spent a fair share of time in northern Minnesota and they don't suffer fools well up there... those "back-woods" good-ol'-boys will eat you alive and toss your bones to the Indians.
As of now, the only defense we have is to not aid in the spread… especially across natural barriers such as the Mississippi River (too late for that now). Moving (ash) firewood from infested areas into non-infested areas speeds the spread… only an idiot refuses to understand that. It isn’t possible (now) to slow the spread, but there isn’t any excuses for the fool that acts in such a way as to speed the spread. When someone moves ash firewood from infested to non-infested areas they simply shorten the time I have left to enjoy the ash trees in my woodlot… which makes them as irresponsible as a drunk holding a loaded gun in one hand and a steering wheel in the other.
Maybe, just maybe, science will develop a true “cure” for the problem before the bug gets to my area. I’ll tell you this, if science does come up with that “cure” after my ash trees are wiped-out, and I hear of someone that acted irresponsible during previous months/years… I’m gonna’ hunt them down, cover them with honey, split their gut and stake ‘em to an ant hill.
You might as well stay in southern Illinois Woodcutter TV, I've spent a fair share of time in northern Minnesota and they don't suffer fools well up there... those "back-woods" good-ol'-boys will eat you alive and toss your bones to the Indians.
avalancher
Arboristsite Raconteur
Arbonaut
Go Climb It
Kalamazoo Gibson
Was that where some of Ted Nugent's Byrdland ES 335's were made? Some of the former employees bought that factory back around when I first started playing guitar. They called it Heritage Guitars and made a mean axe. Skilled craftsmen. Always busy honing their craft and no time for criticizing. The Nuge hones craft and criticizes, but he's earned that and he's right. Nuge do more for ecology than all the drunks combined.
Temp droppin' here 'spider. Freezing up with fresh snow. Might have to get back to work. Thanks for a good laugh, though guys. I came here for the advertisements, and stayed for the comic relief. But I like to write, too.
Was that where some of Ted Nugent's Byrdland ES 335's were made? Some of the former employees bought that factory back around when I first started playing guitar. They called it Heritage Guitars and made a mean axe. Skilled craftsmen. Always busy honing their craft and no time for criticizing. The Nuge hones craft and criticizes, but he's earned that and he's right. Nuge do more for ecology than all the drunks combined.
Temp droppin' here 'spider. Freezing up with fresh snow. Might have to get back to work. Thanks for a good laugh, though guys. I came here for the advertisements, and stayed for the comic relief. But I like to write, too.
Yeah, I see Mt. Vernon's overnight low didn't dip below freezing, and it's gonna' stay in the mid-30's today, tomorrow looks like mid-40's with bright sunny sky's.... Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Arbonaut
Go Climb It
logbutcher
Addicted to ArboristSite
Time Out
In Medieval times the only true Church founded a conclave. It was to once and for all decide HOW MANY ANGELS WOULD FIT ON THE HEAD OF A PIN. After decades of investigation, the conclave members had all died.
From the only true Professor: you are all hereby banished from this ad hominum sandbox. You will go to the corner (s) for Time Out. :dribble:
In Medieval times the only true Church founded a conclave. It was to once and for all decide HOW MANY ANGELS WOULD FIT ON THE HEAD OF A PIN. After decades of investigation, the conclave members had all died.
From the only true Professor: you are all hereby banished from this ad hominum sandbox. You will go to the corner (s) for Time Out. :dribble:
Back-off logbutcher, I'm not in the mood today :mad2:
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