Neighbor's Fence saved ...just barely
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WillClimb
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You people are freakin' ridiculous! Brad, close call, but you learned from it by getting a little advice from this site. What's really lucky is that you got some advice at all, instead of everybody just wailing on you from the start. All they want to do anymore is show how puckered their butts can get.
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Husky, not a bad choice. When you use powered equipment pull up tight slow and easy. I'll never forget Rick's new four wheel drive tied to a big cherry tree and he yells to his guy to take off and his man floors it, as all four wheels spin the weight of the tree pulls the truck and flips it into the street as the tree goes through the electric wires. Funny to think back on it now but at the time what an accident. The truck in the street upside down and the electric knocked out. Had he pulled out slowly and not spun the wheels the truck could have easily pulled the tree over. Spin the wheels means no traction. When you use power take it slow and easy. That was Rick's last tree job, he quit doing tree work after that one.
Husky, not a bad choice. When you use powered equipment pull up tight slow and easy. I'll never forget Rick's new four wheel drive tied to a big cherry tree and he yells to his guy to take off and his man floors it, as all four wheels spin the weight of the tree pulls the truck and flips it into the street as the tree goes through the electric wires. Funny to think back on it now but at the time what an accident. The truck in the street upside down and the electric knocked out. Had he pulled out slowly and not spun the wheels the truck could have easily pulled the tree over. Spin the wheels means no traction. When you use power take it slow and easy. That was Rick's last tree job, he quit doing tree work after that one.
Newfie
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Why do they always come looking for input after they "almost" messed up or after they bought the innapropriate saw for the job. Maybe they seek validation rather than advice?
Interesting comments about "professionals". Obviously you haven't dealt with any real pros from any trade. I'm sure you are just as competent as any half-ass calling himself a pro, regardless of the trade. True professionals usually require to get paid real money for their skills.
Interesting comments about "professionals". Obviously you haven't dealt with any real pros from any trade. I'm sure you are just as competent as any half-ass calling himself a pro, regardless of the trade. True professionals usually require to get paid real money for their skills.
WillClimb
ArboristSite Operative
Brad -
You asked for a good book on this? Try, "The Art and Science of Practical Rigging" by Sharon Lilly and the late Peter Donzelli, who incidentally, was killed in a tree removal accident - the tree failed beneath him. Even the pros have to go when it's their time. There's much luck (or fate) to all of life, not just tree work.
Anyway, the book is somewhat advanced in that it assumes the reader has basic climbing skills.
Also, everything discussed in this thread is explained in the book, and then some. The book also backs up everything that Glen said and never mentions anything about tying to the top and bottom of the tree.
You asked for a good book on this? Try, "The Art and Science of Practical Rigging" by Sharon Lilly and the late Peter Donzelli, who incidentally, was killed in a tree removal accident - the tree failed beneath him. Even the pros have to go when it's their time. There's much luck (or fate) to all of life, not just tree work.
Anyway, the book is somewhat advanced in that it assumes the reader has basic climbing skills.
Also, everything discussed in this thread is explained in the book, and then some. The book also backs up everything that Glen said and never mentions anything about tying to the top and bottom of the tree.
DPDISXR4Ti
ArboristSite Operative
Would you like to see the check I recently wrote to my stone mason? I sure as hell hope he's a pro - I haven't spent that much on a new car!
Brad
DPDISXR4Ti
ArboristSite Operative
Thanks very much...
Stumper
One Man Band
Barnacle Parp's Chainsaw Guide-it is dated and fairly basic regarding felling techniques but still useful-about $3 on Half.com. As Geofore mentioned-Professional Timber Falling by D. Douglas Dent -No roping techniques but that man knows how to make a tree turn around as it falls down-and shows the reader how to do it too. Husky has some great info on felling techniques accessible through their web site -if memory serves.
DPDISXR4Ti
ArboristSite Operative
Thanks Cary - now you're going to have me building a ???? arborist library!
I totally agree and understand that you can be right but be wrong. Look how many people work under cars without jack-stands, and 99 times out of 100, they escape unscathed. They use that "successful history" as a basis for thinking they were doing everything fine, and then SPLAT, Daddy gets flattened by a 4000 lb car falling off the jack. Just happened a couple years ago to a guy the next town over from me. I felt real bad for his family, but I was more mad than sorry for him.
If nothing else, y'all have caused me to make sure I think a little more before I act. I'm a reasonably cautious person, but I should tripple that effort when I'm doing something I'm not terribly experienced at.
Brad
I totally agree and understand that you can be right but be wrong. Look how many people work under cars without jack-stands, and 99 times out of 100, they escape unscathed. They use that "successful history" as a basis for thinking they were doing everything fine, and then SPLAT, Daddy gets flattened by a 4000 lb car falling off the jack. Just happened a couple years ago to a guy the next town over from me. I felt real bad for his family, but I was more mad than sorry for him.
If nothing else, y'all have caused me to make sure I think a little more before I act. I'm a reasonably cautious person, but I should tripple that effort when I'm doing something I'm not terribly experienced at.
Brad
DPDISXR4Ti
ArboristSite Operative
No sweat Craig. It's too easy for any of us to quickly type something and hit the enter key, not quite knowing the different ways something could be interpreted.
Brad
Brad
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
I wiped out a fence today. A Hard Maple was leaning into the feild, so I cabled it with the tractor winch after notching, but the wheels just spun to China, so I sawed on it a bit more, no go, so then I drive the truck into the woods and choked it with the truck winch. Well, it just yanked the butt right off the stump and pummeled the farmers fence. Hope the farmer doesnt notice.
Nice repair job eh?
Nice repair job eh?
DPDISXR4Ti
ArboristSite Operative
Good thing I didn't do that - y'all would be kicking my butt from here to California!
Brad
Oregon_Rob
ArboristSite Guru
Neighbors truck crushed by a tree
Oops! I hate it when this happens!
“Hope he doesn’t notice”
Oops! I hate it when this happens!
“Hope he doesn’t notice”
gyrooooo...
With all the money you get for that fine northern veneer, you might consider hiring a real tree guy for the tough ones.....With the recent surge in the Canadian dollar, my rates have plunged to around $ cdn 849.50 per hr. You help with the work permit etc. And I'll have less border problems and luggage weight issues if you supply some red and black saws---with the custom filed double ended cutters..so the chain will cut regardless of the inevitable Budweiser induced backwards install, PPE.. I just knows you got plenty extry....... presto, the neighbor's fences will be safe!!!!! but not his daughter....Do all that and I'll work even cheaper...and get at least three trees down per day!!! Such a deal!
With all the money you get for that fine northern veneer, you might consider hiring a real tree guy for the tough ones.....With the recent surge in the Canadian dollar, my rates have plunged to around $ cdn 849.50 per hr. You help with the work permit etc. And I'll have less border problems and luggage weight issues if you supply some red and black saws---with the custom filed double ended cutters..so the chain will cut regardless of the inevitable Budweiser induced backwards install, PPE.. I just knows you got plenty extry....... presto, the neighbor's fences will be safe!!!!! but not his daughter....Do all that and I'll work even cheaper...and get at least three trees down per day!!! Such a deal!
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Hey Roger, what are you doing taking a dirt nap in that culvert?
You look like Houdini.
I could has used you today for climbing. It was my fault for not leaving enough holding wood. I guess the tree just jumped off the stump. Congrats on placing first in the falling contest in Clearwater.
John
You look like Houdini.
I could has used you today for climbing. It was my fault for not leaving enough holding wood. I guess the tree just jumped off the stump. Congrats on placing first in the falling contest in Clearwater.
John
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