New chain vs sharpened.

[KiwiBro]

Big, dry, hard as concrete bastid logs. Not many but when time and opportunity allows. Like a treasure hunt, searching for interesting grain. Chip/dust clearance becomes an issue in 5' wide cuts, and even less than that. I'd love to try square filed/ground in such an application also, as well as various scratcher type chains and different combos. Not enough time. The learning never stops.

 

[HarleyT]

Big, dry, hard as concrete bastid logs. Not many but when time and opportunity allows. Like a treasure hunt, searching for interesting grain. Chip/dust clearance becomes an issue in 5' wide cuts, and even less than that. I'd love to try square filed/ground in such an application also, as well as various scratcher type chains and different combos. Not enough time. The learning never stops.

Apparently......

 

[Chainsaw Jim]

A couple of you guys really make a good case for being abusive alcoholics.

 

[KiwiBro]

Book'em Danno.

 

[mdavlee]

Here is a quote for you Del
Every man who sharpens a brand new chain has issues/
Tony Ray

I’m Mike and I sharpen brand new chain.

hi Mike we all sharpen brand new chain. LOL



I did buy a roll of Stihl chain and split it with a guy. We had to grind it before using. One side was awful dull and a cutter wasn’t sharpened at all if I remember right.

 

[HarleyT]

So what is the "logic"??
Remove 8 cutters to clear the "chips"?

For what reason?

As they "impede" the next cutter?

 

[HarleyT]

Surely there should be a "sober" reason!!!

 

[HarleyT]

Are those "hard" chips "problematic"???

 

[HarleyT]

Bastid?

 

[HarleyT]

Did a Bing search of "Bastid"....
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/what-kind-of-wood-scales-did-bastid-give-me.882568/

 

[dmb2613]

I don't see the need for skip chain very often, Just get a bigger saw. I like sharp chain , I grind my chains on an Oregon grinder at work and file as needed in the woods , which is not often. I don't think few if any can hand file better than I grind . My chains self feed to.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I’m Mike and I sharpen brand new chain.

hi Mike we all sharpen brand new chain. LOL



I did buy a roll of Stihl chain and split it with a guy. We had to grind it before using. One side was awful dull and a cutter wasn’t sharpened at all if I remember right.

Yes, yes we do.

 

[Tony ray]

I use to look forward to putting on a new chain and now you have all wrecked it for me. This plus how much oil to use what kind to use and what type of fuel to use not that crap that comes out of the pumps and then toss it if you haven't used it all up in a month and how to properly store your saw for the summer.
Only joined for the pictures now I realise how reckless I am.
And another thing I grind the rakers right down and hang on for dear life to get through our filthy barked hardwoods.

 

[jchipps]

I do believe. I grind and file when the chain becomes dull. It is not dull when brand new. At least not Stihl and Husky. If you are buying bulk chain from Estonia or Kinoshita or some other place then maybe you are dead on.

I never bought any 'junk' chain in my life - Always been a 'Brand Name' kinda guy - Husqvarna, Stihl, Oregon etc.
When you're making your living with those chains, you don't buy garbage. My motto: You normally get what ya PAY for.

So to re-cap: Yes - those GOOD quality chains were still always sharper, and cut better "after" the first hand filing - and then got even BETTER after that.

As a side note: I did recently get a couple of the 30RC Woodland Pro chains from Baileys to try out - First off-brand chain I ever bought.
Not sure who actually makes it - but my opinion - Seems to be pretty decent chain.

It too becomes sharper and cuts better "after" a good hand filing - just like all the rest.

 

[Philbert]

Also, how in the hell does one make a "skip" chain out of a regular chain????

Pay attention HarleyT:
https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...in-from-removing-cutters.313430/#post-6353288

A more in-depth discussion in that 'other' power equipment forum ( sorry, cannot link that thread). Referred to as 'cowboy skip'.

Philbert

 

[HarleyT]

OK, so how many guys buy a brand new chain and grind off %60 of the cutters??

 

[pioneerguy600]

Last big cut I was on was 2000 acres with a yield of between 20 -30 cord per acre with an average of 20 cords per day per sawyer. Trees felled, limed and the trunks cut in 48" lengths that are actually closer to 50" as a short stick or two in a cord would be docked by the scalier.

 

[HarleyT]

So with a chain with most of the cutters ground off?

 

[Philbert]

OK, so how many guys buy a brand new chain and grind off %60 of the cutters??

It's 1/3 of the cutters. And only if you are bored, have a fullcomp loop of the right length, and a Dremel tool.

Philbert

 

[HarleyT]

1/3??

Sorry, my math may be wrong.....

Let's click back and check....