Nik's Poulan Thread

[3000 FPS]

Yea it was -15 last night and up to 4 degrees today. Tonight is suppose to be as cold also. I went to start my diesel truck that has been sitting out and it rattled so bad I thought it was going to explode or something. But All is good and you are right I need to plug it in.

 

[Stihl-Pioneer]

I bought a new rim style sprocket for it, but need a bearing yet it seems. The bearing in the old drum doesn't want to come out, so I just reused the old sprocket.

Gregg,

I found the same thing out when I switched mine over to rim set ups. I believe the bearing is pressed in or something in the factory spur. It's a standard size bearing for the rim setup.

 

[CC982]

Hi, all.

I picked this up a couple of weeks ago, and was hoping to get some more info on it. It is an Allis Chalmers model 85 blade saw. It is NOS, and I have all of the paperwork, box, and all of the literature that came with it when new. It also came with the original receipt from 3/22/1974. I posted this in the general chainsaw forum, and I was told that I would probably get a better response on the Poulan thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew how many of them were produced, and what years they were manufactured with the Allis Chalmers name on them. Any info would be greatly appreciated, and I will include some pictures for everyone to see.

 

[Warped5]

Nice find! There will be a couple of guys drooling over here ..

 

[OhioGregg]

Nice find! There will be a couple of guys drooling over here ..

Yea, I think I just heard ModifiedMark drop his beer....and say something like Holy Crap!!!

 

[3000 FPS]

Hi, all.

I picked this up a couple of weeks ago, and was hoping to get some more info on it. It is an Allis Chalmers model 85 blade saw. It is NOS, and I have all of the paperwork, box, and all of the literature that came with it when new. It also came with the original receipt from 3/22/1974. I posted this in the general chainsaw forum, and I was told that I would probably get a better response on the Poulan thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew how many of them were produced, and what years they were manufactured with the Allis Chalmers name on them. Any info would be greatly appreciated, and I will include some pictures for everyone to see.View attachment 321109View attachment 321110

Wow that is amazing. I am very impressed with the fact you have the paper work and the original box it came in.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I'm not even into the older stuff, but it sure made me look and . That right there is one sweet find.

 

[joe25DA]

Now that I got my camera goin again I can post some pics. First is a very nice 2800 I found on CL a weel before thanksgiving. Got it from the original owners son. Saw has great comp and will run again with minimal work. He tried talking me into a mini mac I politely declined.
Also this is the first Green/black saw in this series that I have. All the others are craftsman or PP yellow.

 

[joe25DA]

Also found this on the bay this past weekend (same day I picked up that sweet 750 homelite!) It was a BIN, had a $50 gift cert and the price was low to begin with> When it came today I thought I might find a blown P/C...luckily it has super compression and the inards are squeaky clean. The seller was great shipped fast, forgot the clutch cover when he packaged it and told me right away. A+++ seller in my book. I have been wanting a 3.7 ci in this series since I first learned of them. Cant wait to run it.
Ill have it looking like new...

cover is in transit

 

[Saw Dr.]

I guess I scared ol' Bow off with that orange saw. Oh well.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Hi, all.

I picked this up a couple of weeks ago, and was hoping to get some more info on it. It is an Allis Chalmers model 85 blade saw. It is NOS, and I have all of the paperwork, box, and all of the literature that came with it when new. It also came with the original receipt from 3/22/1974. I posted this in the general chainsaw forum, and I was told that I would probably get a better response on the Poulan thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew how many of them were produced, and what years they were manufactured with the Allis Chalmers name on them. Any info would be greatly appreciated, and I will include some pictures for everyone to see.

There is little info to be found on the Poulan 100 and variant bladesaws. I will tell you what I know and what I think from my own educated guess's.

First the original patent was issued in Nov 1970. But we know it was started production 2 years before that. I have a Poulan document that list the production starting dates for saws in that era and they list the Poulan 100 and 100E (yes the "E" stood for electric start!) as being introduced in 1968 meaning they were based on the Poulan 201 saw which is a early version of the 306A. I actually have 2 of the Wright 100 bladesaws and one is a early 200 series based saw while the other is a later 306 based model.


Like I said on your other post, that saw is based on a Poulan 306A chainsaw. The 306 didn't start production till 1970. I started to work at a AC dealership in late 1977 and they had quit selling AC chainsaws and went to Poulans at least 2-3 years before I started there. So I figure they started selling AC saws around 1970 and ended in about 74 or 75. Most of the other AC saws were not introduced as Poulans before 1970 so that's why I assume AC didn't sell any before then.

Your saw is intriguing to me for a couple reasons. First is the color, I have never seen any model AC saw that lime green. All US sold AC saws were Olive green except the 65 which was AC orange and the 75A was either color.

I first thought yours was different as it might have been one of the last produced and they just went lime green on it but yours has the early style starter grip that was used on the 200 series saws and only some of the earliest 300 series.

Poulan did switch parts around on stuff back then though so who knows for sure.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Yea, I think I just heard ModifiedMark drop his beer....and say something like Holy Crap!!!

Not quite, if I dropped my beer you would hear me crying.

 

[Big Dan]

Also found this on the bay this past weekend (same day I picked up that sweet 750 homelite!) It was a BIN, had a $50 gift cert and the price was low to begin with> When it came today I thought I might find a blown P/C...luckily it has super compression and the inards are squeaky clean. The seller was great shipped fast, forgot the clutch cover when he packaged it and told me right away. A+++ seller in my book. I have been wanting a 3.7 ci in this series since I first learned of them. Cant wait to run it.
Ill have it looking like new...

cover is in transit

Also found this on the bay this past weekend (same day I picked up that sweet 750 homelite!) It was a BIN, had a $50 gift cert and the price was low to begin with> When it came today I thought I might find a blown P/C...luckily it has super compression and the inards are squeaky clean. The seller was great shipped fast, forgot the clutch cover when he packaged it and told me right away. A+++ seller in my book. I have been wanting a 3.7 ci in this series since I first learned of them. Cant wait to run it.
Ill have it looking like new...

cover is in transit

Good find Joe,those are one of the best firewood saws around. I've been running mine with a 20" .325 but would like to find an 18" 3/8 for it.

 

[redunshee]

Thanks for the 295 tips Tim & Roger. I'll look into it. Meanwhile I took a few pics of it. I bought a new rim style sprocket for it, but need a bearing yet it seems. The bearing in the old drum doesn't want to come out, so I just reused the old sprocket. Not in bad shape yet. New chain on it also. Noticed I'm missing a top cover screw also. Other than that, it should be good to go.

Gregg,

Gregg, mine looked like the bearing was part of the sprocket so I didn't fool with it. Did u use the poulan special carb tool on the needles or slot them? Mine is going thru a carb rebuild now. Good to know I may need to open needles more than usual. Save a lot of swearing.
Bob

 

[OhioGregg]

Gregg, mine looked like the bearing was part of the sprocket so I didn't fool with it. Did u use the poulan special carb tool on the needles or slot them? Mine is going thru a carb rebuild now. Good to know I may need to open needles more than usual. Save a lot of swearing.
Bob

Bob, The mixture screws on mine were dual purpose I guess. Had slots & the knurled outside for using the "tool". I used the Poulan tool, just because it grabs hold better and doesn't slip, easier to get on the screw back in there. I was going to take that black rubber "grommet" gizmo that surrounds the screws, just to make it easier to get to them. But decided to leave it on there. Figured be less place for dust to enter, keep it cleaner.

Gregg,

 

[Bow]

Hey Bow, If you need to cut firewood while you work out a trade with Mark, I have a VERY nice Stihl 029 Super I can send you to cut your wood. I can ship it tomorrow of need be, just tell me what length bar you want. You can't un-start the red saw once you pop it's cherry, and I figure if there is another one there to use, the temptation might be lower? I have no interest in that saw for myself, but Mark is my friend and I'd like to see it end up in his collection. Just an offer. PM me an address if interested.

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner on this very generous offer. The NOS 3.7 is still sitting here, UNFIRED, and really un-everything. I am in no immediate need to cut wood, and I have even been looking looking for just a recreational use saw again on CL. I do think this saw belongs in the hands of someone who appreciates what it is, and I have not done anything, including even changing the fuel line, to it. No need to do that stuff if it is going to be a display model and I don't want to damage anything in any way....even marks on the bolt heads.

I need to post it up in the "for sale" area and take best offers to see what the level of interest is. From there I can decide if it is worth it to me to sell it or just hang on to it. I would think something like a basic saw that works, nothing fancy, and anywhere from a 14" to 18" might do the job. The cosmetic condition is not important to me, only that I don't have to screw with it trying to get it started or keep it running, are the important things. Add to that some financial consideration (cash ..lol) and we might be good to go. Anyway that is the plan....and I would never pop it's cherry before exhausting every possibility. Even thought about Ebay, but I don't want a straight auction as I might get a low sale price. Might run it with a reserve price...but those generally do not get enough bidding. If someone wants to make an offer, cash, or cash and saw, or ???, feel free to PM me.

I figured I should repost one of the pics, just so you guys wouldn't forget about it....
BTW....I wonder how much that thing would shine with a careful wax job....or even a good wipedown.

 

[OhioGregg]

Also found this on the bay this past weekend (same day I picked up that sweet 750 homelite!) It was a BIN, had a $50 gift cert and the price was low to begin with> When it came today I thought I might find a blown P/C...luckily it has super compression and the inards are squeaky clean. The seller was great shipped fast, forgot the clutch cover when he packaged it and told me right away. A+++ seller in my book. I have been wanting a 3.7 ci in this series since I first learned of them. Cant wait to run it.
Ill have it looking like new...

cover is in transit

Joe, You are gonna like that saw! I ran either Mike's or Mark's back at the first GTG we had, I was sold. I have a PP380 which is darn near the same thing, slightly newer. Mine was pretty much a basket case when I got it. Missing parts & looked like it was drug down a gravel road, and I think it was. After some work, it turned out to be a real runner, and I use it quite a bit.
Just before this last GTG, I discovered it had a small crack in the case, that would open slightly when the bar nuts were tightened. About a month ago I replaced the case with one from a PP330. Put a new piston & ring in it too, just because I had one. LOL The saw had 170 lbs. compression before, havn't checked now. Decided to put a new bar on it also.

Gregg,

 

[Saw Dr.]

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner on this very generous offer. The NOS 3.7 is still sitting here, UNFIRED, and really un-everything. I am in no immediate need to cut wood, and I have even been looking looking for just a recreational use saw again on CL. I do think this saw belongs in the hands of someone who appreciates what it is, and I have not done anything, including even changing the fuel line, to it. No need to do that stuff if it is going to be a display model and I don't want to damage anything in any way....even marks on the bolt heads.

I need to post it up in the "for sale" area and take best offers to see what the level of interest is. From there I can decide if it is worth it to me to sell it or just hang on to it. I would think something like a basic saw that works, nothing fancy, and anywhere from a 14" to 18" might do the job. The cosmetic condition is not important to me, only that I don't have to screw with it trying to get it started or keep it running, are the important things. Add to that some financial consideration (cash ..lol) and we might be good to go. Anyway that is the plan....and I would never pop it's cherry before exhausting every possibility. Even thought about Ebay, but I don't want a straight auction as I might get a low sale price. Might run it with a reserve price...but those generally do not get enough bidding. If someone wants to make an offer, cash, or cash and saw, or ???, feel free to PM me.

I figured I should repost one of the pics, just so you guys wouldn't forget about it....
BTW....I wonder how much that thing would shine with a careful wax job....or even a good wipedown.
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You saw my offer. I'll throw in a new case, since you have one with your saw. Mark will send a new 20" bar and a couple of chains. Basically everything you have there, but in orange and ready to run (including new fuel line, etc.) If you think it is worth cash on top of that, I'm out of the deal. If this has become a for-profit venture, eBay is your best bet.

 

[Bow]

Dr. Saw,

I think I indicated that I really had no need for such a quality saw as Mark was offering. And I would never think that any of you here actually buy saws to make money. That for-profit thing must just be for the other guy....

 

[joe25DA]

Joe, You are gonna like that saw! I ran either Mike's or Mark's back at the first GTG we had, I was sold. I have a PP380 which is darn near the same thing, slightly newer. Mine was pretty much a basket case when I got it. Missing parts & looked like it was drug down a gravel road, and I think it was. After some work, it turned out to be a real runner, and I use it quite a bit.
Just before this last GTG, I discovered it had a small crack in the case, that would open slightly when the bar nuts were tightened. About a month ago I replaced the case with one from a PP330. Put a new piston & ring in it too, just because I had one. LOL The saw had 170 lbs. compression before, havn't checked now. Decided to put a new bar on it also.

Gregg,

That is a sweet looking saw there gregg! I must admit o like the look of the 330, 380 better. I have heard these were good performers. How do they rate among the competition? Also. Do these saws have the giladroni cylinders? Im sure I spelt that wrong!