ChipsFlyin
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Mine has the round choke.
With the 4400 and 5400- Maybe they ran production longer but in lower numbers with expectation of selling less because they were larger saws. Only an idea...
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With the 4400 and 5400- Maybe they ran production longer but in lower numbers with expectation of selling less because they were larger saws. Only an idea...
ChipsFlyin
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What about the 361's and 400's?
Guido Salvage
Supreme Saw Whoreder
No 400's that I am aware of, but a number of 361s.
I agree Gary, The flat knob chokes were later and usually with the cover mounted hand guards, and possibly even the softer, thicker foam on the handles. At least from what I have seen. Nothing is set in stone though, as most of us know.
I was pondering the same thing, when I read the date production of the 4400/5400. I guess ChipsFlyin idea is as good as any. They seem about as scarce as the newer models, 6900/7700/8500 if not more so. Another thing I found odd, was there was no mention of the 4900. It would be the same as the 4400/5400 era.
Gregg,
Guido Salvage
Supreme Saw Whoreder
I do not know if I have ever seen a 6900 in person. I have a toasted 7700 here and two 8500's. Also two 4400's, three 4900's, 2 5400's and some 4200 and 5200's.
Another thought that went through my head looking at those dates. The 4200/5200 were only made 3 years. While the 4400/5400 5 years. There sure are a boat load of 4200's & 5200's out there. Maybe they were a huge hit when they first came to market, then kinda dwindled off as time went on, and with competition from other company's.
As old as I am, LOL I can not ever remember seeing adds for them. I do remember adds on TV for other Poulans, like the 3400. "Ed and his Pooo-lon.
Gregg,
As old as I am, LOL I can not ever remember seeing adds for them. I do remember adds on TV for other Poulans, like the 3400. "Ed and his Pooo-lon.
Gregg,
I know a guy who was a Poulan dealer back in the '70's and 80's. He said it was hard to sell the Poulans because they competed with the Stihl's and were around the same price point. Stihl had much better marketing (which is what it's all about to the average person) and sold more saws. I see and hear a lot of . "I am selling this because I bought a Stihl!" Well whoop de do and good for me.
The dealer inquired about the 4200, and 5200 sales and the distributor said he sold very few up here in Ontario. A big sale was 10 saws to a dealer so they are rare here. Maybe the same applied to the sales in the US. I expect the popularity may have been very regional.
A lot of people missed a good saw and I am thrilled to have one of each. Gary has the rest.
The dealer inquired about the 4200, and 5200 sales and the distributor said he sold very few up here in Ontario. A big sale was 10 saws to a dealer so they are rare here. Maybe the same applied to the sales in the US. I expect the popularity may have been very regional.
A lot of people missed a good saw and I am thrilled to have one of each. Gary has the rest.
Several years ago, before one of our Poulan GTG's, Steve (67Mustang) came up a day or so early. We were back doings some cutting and comparing saws. He had both a 7700 & a 8500. I ran them back to back, several times, and I almost, kinda liked the 7700 better.
It just seemed smoother, or something. It surely didn't lack for power in what we were cutting. Huge wood might make a difference. Who knows. Maybe that 77cc is the "sweet spot" for that design. ???Gregg,
You got that regional thing absolutely right Tim. Around here the big Poulans are non-existent. Around my area, North West Ohio, its pretty much open flatter farm land. Obviously some still do some hard wood logging around here, but not a great deal. They sure wood have done A LOT of it back in the early 1800's LOL but unfortunately no Poulans or otherwise back then.
Gregg,
Craigwell
ArboristSite Operative
I can definitely comment on the regional thing. Poulan's hardly seemed to have existed in the Maritimes before the 90's, and the raft of crappy saws that I don't mess with. Rebadged ones sure, but I don't come across many.
I wonder if any of the larger CC units were rebadged and sold here. I'd love to see a 4200/5400, 8500, etc - in ANY form. I'm going to go over the part number conversion chart again now.. Long day that saw me from Moncton->Charlottetown->Truro and back to Moncton. I did take an hour to pick up a good running Pioneer 1073 Powerhead today in Truro though, $25
I wonder if any of the larger CC units were rebadged and sold here. I'd love to see a 4200/5400, 8500, etc - in ANY form. I'm going to go over the part number conversion chart again now.. Long day that saw me from Moncton->Charlottetown->Truro and back to Moncton. I did take an hour to pick up a good running Pioneer 1073 Powerhead today in Truro though, $25
Craigwell
ArboristSite Operative
Interesting.. I see my Craftsman in there, 358-41418 as introduced in 1985, no discontinued or obsolete date. "3.4-18 w/CB" which is accurate as far as the bar and brake go, will confirm the bore when I get back to Halifax in a day or two.
There is no match in that guide for my Mastercraft, (54-5671) The nearest match is 5664 , a "3.4 - 16". There is a 16" bar on mine, no mention of CB though, which this saw does have.
Can't wait to measure bores.
There is no match in that guide for my Mastercraft, (54-5671) The nearest match is 5664 , a "3.4 - 16". There is a 16" bar on mine, no mention of CB though, which this saw does have.
Can't wait to measure bores.
Hmm, i have a few of those saws with that hole in the bottom of the case.
Great write guys. In the northeast 65ccs is considered big. Example dropped my dads 361 Stihl off at the dealer for something. Picked it up and Dave the owner says go get that "big stihl". Point being I don't find big saws around here. A lot of s25s, micros and 3400s. I've seen 3 4000s (bought all three) 2 395s (same) a couple 3800s, and 0 3700s. I do have a 5200 but I'm sure those are rare too I never see them come up
I checked my early 3400's. The second one I bought, a red Craftsman 3400 which ran a while ago anyway, does have the adjustable oiler hole in the case but the oiler screw is not there. For the heck of it, I pulled the muffler cover and it has a 3800 top end on it. The owner's manual that came with the saw says it's a 3400. Another weirdo Canadian saw. I'll have to go through it get it running right and check it out.
A question about the 16" Control Tip bars that were issued on some of the 3400's. I noticed the bar on one of mine is running a now obsolete Oregon 76. The drivers and tie straps measure as a standard 3/8's chain but the cutters (albeit worn) look to be a narrower top plate and laid back depth gauge (but not like a 91 type). Did these bars run that unique 76 chain to aid the reduced kickback with those bars? The picture of Gregg's set-up looks like your typical LGX a couple of pages back.
Is there a modern equivalent that anyone has used? I swapped a 20" Oregon that came on a 452 vl (gasp!) for the 16" banana. I think that 452 would be happier with some sort of 76 style instead of LGX. Is lp an option on these bars?
Is there a modern equivalent that anyone has used? I swapped a 20" Oregon that came on a 452 vl (gasp!) for the 16" banana. I think that 452 would be happier with some sort of 76 style instead of LGX. Is lp an option on these bars?
wondering if the oil pumps on the newer 3400s could be modded to mimic the adjustable pump or are they totally different critters?
Another odd thing on the red saw above. I looked at the muffler diffuser today and I've never seen one like this. From another saw maybe? This one has about 8% less open area compared to the standard 18 X 0.255" openings.
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