Skf cr6119 or 6120
What ones do we like ?
Available from the dealer still by chance ?
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What ones do we like ?
Available from the dealer still by chance ?
I used National 253747, both sides. Got mine at the auto parts store, Advanced Auto or Auto Zone, can't remember right off hand. Cheaper than NAPA.
Page 1520 has some case bore chamfering info from ModifiedMark. You may want to do it first, to help the 6119 seals start in straight & easier.
Still can’t figure out how to go to an old page directly in the Stickies, but searching will do it.
I did a little searching, but everything is painfully slow lately. I’ll check that page out, thank ya kindly.
There's a step in the crankshaft at the seal pocket that the seal needs help to get over or the seal lip will turn inside out. For the 3400 to 4000 series saws I put a piece of 1/2" copper plumbing pipe over the crankshaft and push the seal over that and down over the step.
Failing that and for other saws that are similar, I wrap electrical tape around the crankshaft until it's built up to the same diameter as the step and push the seal down over that past the step.
Don't wrap any tape beyond the step as you don't want any tape under the seal lip once the seal is in place.
The Timken / National seals are typically a little larger than the SKF seals on the case OD. About 0.001" larger OD which can make them a little harder to get in. Both SKF and Timken / National work equally well.
SKF 6119 has one lip and the SKF 6120 has a sealing lip and a dust lip. Most of the old saws came without the dust lip so either is fine.
Backwards, SKF seal 6119 is dual lipped (HMSA1) & is preferred over the 6120 (HMS1) for dirty/dusty applications.
You made me go dig the spare seals out & look...lol
Just checking to see who's awake Randy. Well, really a mistake and it's not going to stop either.
Thanks for correcting that.
You guys are truly great. Thanks for the help
I don't know how far you live from Cory but he really knows his stuff. So do bigbadbob and rocketnorton. You guys could have a mini GTG
I think my 4200 has the same “step” on the crank aswell. With a little patience I think I was able to get over it with out to many fancy tools.
I think Cory is 45 mins south of me and Pete and I have met up a few times already and swapped parts.
I think Cory is 45 mins south of me and Pete and I have met up a few times already and swapped parts.
Ordered a handful of 6119’s be a few weeks apparently. Time to play with something else till then I guess
Where are ya buying these seals from? Our local skf agent can't get them
the Australian distributor can't eather.
Amazon has 20 in stock
Was told they are coming straight from the skf plant
Ok I'm cumming up with heaps on Ebay too thanks sweet as not sure what's up with skf out hear have probably been thrown in the cant be f"#$%d basket
We’ll see if I get them. Ordered 6. If you haven’t tracked any down by then I’m sure I can help you out.
Ok thanks mate I should be ok.
I just checked ebay and nothing came up,what are you looking under.
Give the inch dimensions to an industrial supply shop that carries seals. If you don't have the sizes required they are as below. Maybe they can come up with a different manufacturer.
Shaft dia, 0.625" Case pocket dia, 0.875" Width 0.125"
Lip material should be nitrile
Shaft dia, 0.625" Case pocket dia, 0.875" Width 0.125"
Lip material should be nitrile
Thanks Tim. Yea just .oil seal 6120. and comes up with national 253747
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