Nik's Poulan Thread

[dave76]

Me becoming, or being "an old fart", tend to not like change. After 20+ years doing something a certain way it was a little worrisome to switch to the new fangled oil and less of it. :msp_scared: You still want to make sure your carb is set correctly, no matter what oil you use. I have been running 93 oct. premium fuel in mine also. But the last jug I mixed up, went back to regular 87 or 89 oct. I honestly can't see no difference. Its cheaper anyway. LOL

I got started on using synthetic oil from being in the R/C airplane hobby. It was a given that they use synthetic in the gasoline powered engines. I used Klotz syn. at 40:1 those, but switched to Woodland Pro, just because its easily obtainable, from Baileys. And it comes in the right size bottles to just dump a can in for a 2 gal. mix. Makes things easy for an old fart!!


Gregg,

I been using Tanaka perfect mix which is 50:1 and everything runs perfect in all weather

Hey guys...

I have a LOW hr 2300 (well, the CRAFTSMAN version here..) the saw is really clean, pops on the first pull choke, choke off, throttle open, starts and revs up (following the starting instructions, as it doesn't have a throttle lock..) will idle nice, and tune seems to be right on (no hesitation, throttles right up... L-screw is about 1/4 turn below where the chain stops turning... (i'm guessing the 3k range?? :dunno: )

good RPM, and burble @ WOT...

when tuning, it seems I get a lot of spit-back out of the carb when hitting the throttle... to the point that the choke lever gets wet on the outside after cutting with it.... NOT my BIGGEST concern..

The BIG concern I have, is it seems to RICHEN the heck out of itself to the point that letting off the throttle abruptly will cause it to stall....If it blip it a couple times, it will settle down, and idle nicely, one time I let it sit for over 5 minutes on the ground...


Thoughts? something internal in the carb?? metering lever height? screws are about 1 turn out.. I want to say the L is about 1 1/8" saw pulls 130 psi...


I DO NOT want this saw to beat me! I KNOW it's not worth it, but I want it to RUN!!! :bang:


J

I've done a lot of these saws, they all spray back through the carb, I'm gonna assume it's because it's a reed valve saw. And yes I have one that spray enough that the outside of the choke knob would run with fuel. I guess it could be running rough after high RPM because mabe the as was said the metering lever, or the high screw could be a tad too rich. I have found that leaning the H would clear that problem up.

And I always set the crab lean before replacing the carb cover as it'll make up for it when it's on.

The trufuel is 91 octane I believe, the SE94 is... 94 :msp_w00t:
If there was an Ethanol free 87 available here I would use that, but to my knowledge there is not.
I despise using Ethanol in my machines and I will pay a premium not to.

I gues I'm in luck as the local Shell here does not have any ethanol in it, he seems to be the only one too.

I heard from a coworker that there going to eliminate ethanol from fuel?? Is that true??

 

[sachsmo]

I been using Tanaka perfect mix which is 50:1 and everything runs perfect in all weather



I've done a lot of these saws, they all spray back through the carb, I'm gonna assume it's because it's a reed valve saw. And yes I have one that spray enough that the outside of the choke knob would run with fuel. I guess it could be running rough after high RPM because mabe the as was said the metering lever, or the high screw could be a tad too rich. I have found that leaning the H would clear that problem up.

And I always set the crab lean before replacing the carb cover as it'll make up for it when it's on.



I gues I'm in luck as the local Shell here does not have any ethanol in it, he seems to be the only one too.

I heard from a coworker that there going to eliminate ethanol from fuel?? Is that true??[/QUOTE]

Yes that will happen soon, when corn starts going North of 10 dollars a bushel. It's just not feasable to eat crude.

 

[Modifiedmark]

OK, thanks. I wish he had the side covers lying around.... He also has a neat looking old Homelite, that I might grab before he starts chunking everything in a roll off dumpster.......

Is the P/C good enought to be worth chasing all those parts for it?

If it is parts can be found.

J, it's normal for that saw to spit back fuel through the carb. You'll especially notice that when tuning with the carb cover off, but I can't imagine it being so rich that it's getting wet through to the choke knob. The problem with tuning those is that when you replace the carb cover after tuning is that it's naturally rich because you've restricted the air flow by replacing the cover. It has to suck air through the foam filter. I usually compensate on the lean side and continue to adjust till it runs properly with the cover on. Try that before you break into the carb. Then check the metering lever.

Steve, the problem with adjusting the carb without the cover on is not near as severe when a OEM filter that is in good shape is used on it.

Make shift filters dont seem to flow like there supposed to and even the after market ones dont seem to work as well as the OEM's either.

Poulan still has filters for the Micros and the S25's.

 

[67 Mustang]

Steve, the problem with adjusting the carb without the cover on is not near as severe when a OEM filter that is in good shape is used on it.

Make shift filters dont seem to flow like there supposed to and even the after market ones dont seem to work as well as the OEM's either.

Poulan still has filters for the Micros and the S25's.

I find it difficult to adjust them with the cover off even with an OEM filter. Not a big deal. Just use one screw to hold the cover on and pull the cover back off and continue to make incremental adjustments until you get it where you want it.

 

[Nardoo]

4900

This one was advertised as a 49cc Poulan with a grainy phone pic. I took the punt and this 4900 turned up. The seller said he could not pull it over and I feared it was locked up. Nope - but I have never seen compression over 180 lbs on my gauge before. I have been chasing a 4200 for a while and I could not resist this.
It starts really easy and cuts like a beauty. It is all original with nothing missing or broken - something that is rare around here as a lot of these saws were used by the fallers in the 70's and saw hard use.
The bore and piston are perfect but there is lots of carbon in the muffler. Never had an easier restoration as it just needed a wipe down. Piped exhaust has a nice sound too.

 

[redunshee]

Great looking saw and what a find! What a price! I've never seen comp that high either. Too bad the saw has no de-comp button. Don't pull your arm out.
Bob

 

[OhioGregg]

Very, Very Nice find :msp_thumbup: Nardoo
They say only a small percentage of the total gold in the world has been found. Looks like there are still Poulan gems to be found also. Thats in great condition. Not a bad 49cc saw at all! In case you didn't know, the top cover is the correct color of green for that saw. I could never figure that out. Why they used the darker olive army green on them , instead of the bright green or black.


Gregg,

 

[OhioGregg]

Was watching TV sat. afternoon. Watched several episodes of the Stihl Timbersports events from I think 2008. In one of the Hot Saw events there was a guy by the name of Mike Forrester, from the USA. I swear I saw the Poulan name on his saw. One of the announcers made reference to it as the mean green machine. I'm pretty sure its NOT a Poulan saw, but maybe he had a Poulan sponsorship then. Just wondering if anybody else might know the story there, or have seen it.


Gregg,

 

[redunshee]

Was watching TV sat. afternoon. Watched several episodes of the Stihl Timbersports events from I think 2008. In one of the Hot Saw events there was a guy by the name of Mike Forrester, from the USA. I swear I saw the Poulan name on his saw. One of the announcers made reference to it as the mean green machine. I'm pretty sure its NOT a Poulan saw, but maybe he had a Poulan sponsorship then. Just wondering if anybody else might know the story there, or have seen it.


Gregg,

Jeez Gregg, watching old 2008 shows! What a life! You the man.
Bob

 

[redunshee]

Pp405

Well I don't know if I did good or bad. Saw a PP405 on Ebay and for the heck of it I bid, not expecting to win. Won saw for what I thought was a real good price. Time will tell just what I won.
Bob

 

[67 Mustang]

This one was advertised as a 49cc Poulan with a grainy phone pic. I took the punt and this 4900 turned up. The seller said he could not pull it over and I feared it was locked up. Nope - but I have never seen compression over 180 lbs on my gauge before. I have been chasing a 4200 for a while and I could not resist this.
It starts really easy and cuts like a beauty. It is all original with nothing missing or broken - something that is rare around here as a lot of these saws were used by the fallers in the 70's and saw hard use.
The bore and piston are perfect but there is lots of carbon in the muffler. Never had an easier restoration as it just needed a wipe down. Piped exhaust has a nice sound too.

Nice grab, Nardoo! Thanks for the pics.

 

[67 Mustang]

Well I don't know if I did good or bad. Saw a PP405 on Ebay and for the heck of it I bid, not expecting to win. Won saw for what I thought was a real good price. Time will tell just what I won.
Bob

I was watching that one, Bob. Congrats on getting it. I think you did alright on the price. Doesn't look that bad. I have a couple of those that I hope to get one good one out of. The bottom of one of the cases is broken. Seems to be the Achilles heal of these models. I'll be looking forward to see how it turns out for you.

 

[redunshee]

I was watching that one, Bob. Congrats on getting it. I think you did alright on the price. Doesn't look that bad. I have a couple of those that I hope to get one good one out of. The bottom of one of the cases is broken. Seems to be the Achilles heal of these models. I'll be looking forward to see how it turns out for you.

Lets hope so. I'll post pics when it arrives.
Bob

 

[Nardoo]

Thanks for the nice comments guys about the 4900. Regarding the high compression, it is actually quite reasonable to start - maybe it is the the reed valve or mild timing?
I have a 395 with 180 comp and it will shred your rotator cuff if you don't use the decomp. The Partner R30 below had a compression of 175 and I had to use a thinner starter rope on it so the rope would break when it kicked back and not rip your arm off! I use to get sick of pulling the starter off to rethread the rope. It was a buzz to use but I had to sell it before it killed me.:msp_wink:

Al.

 

[roncoinc]

Had to dig out the old 4200 yestday to get it some exercise
guy said he had some big trees to cut down,i think i went over prepared !

 

[Modifiedmark]

This one was advertised as a 49cc Poulan with a grainy phone pic. I took the punt and this 4900 turned up. The seller said he could not pull it over and I feared it was locked up. Nope - but I have never seen compression over 180 lbs on my gauge before. I have been chasing a 4200 for a while and I could not resist this.
It starts really easy and cuts like a beauty. It is all original with nothing missing or broken - something that is rare around here as a lot of these saws were used by the fallers in the 70's and saw hard use.
The bore and piston are perfect but there is lots of carbon in the muffler. Never had an easier restoration as it just needed a wipe down. Piped exhaust has a nice sound too.

Nice Al, Your going to like that alot. Its a better find then the 4200 you were looking for.

I just picked up a 4900 a week ago but in very poor condition. Looks like the bottom has corroded pretty bad but it does have spark and a mint P/C. The 77cc P/C were worth it for me.

I also picked up a clean 4200 last week for $25 but they said it had no spark and some scoring on the piston but still had decent compression.

I'm going to tear into them soon to see just what all I got.

The 4200 is too nice to let sit so one way or another it will run again. Not sure why though as I have two others already. Maybe I'll have one for trade...

 

[Modifiedmark]

Had to dig out the old 4200 yestday to get it some exercise
guy said he had some big trees to cut down,i think i went over prepared !

Ron, you brought a gun to a knife fight.

 

[rms61moparman]

Ron, you brought a gun to a knife fight.

And the problem with that is........what???LOL


Mike

 

[barneyrb]

Ron, you brought a gun to a knife fight.

I don't dial 911......I dial 1911

 

[roncoinc]

Ron, you brought a gun to a knife fight.

Better over than under gunned anyway !
that was a nice little 18in northern oak,..
surprised nobody noticed the stump ?
i figured i had the power i could play with the fall
was going to bore cut but decided to try to make it spin and walk a bit just for fun...leaving all that hinge i dint think it was ever going to go over !
got it to pop off the stump so far it dont even show in the pic..
brot along a 3400 but forgot it had a safety chain on it that was NO fun at all !!