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.nick 55
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Somebody will probably think they are getting a pro level logging saw.........
I had to look and see if they were asking for Japanese Yen or something.
Nick
I had to look and see if they were asking for Japanese Yen or something.
Nick
Eccentric
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I worked on a few of those when I was at Sears Service. Never did more than carb work on that model. I didn't even realize they were a Micro under that different bodywork. I wish that Poulan would've made a good rear handle AV version of the S25-CVA along the lines of the 2400. Would have been a dandy rear handle limbing/bucket saw that'd put an MS200 (rear handle version of the overpriced MS200T) on the trailer....
Here's another teal green/blue early Sears rebadged Poulan 25 (with PowerSharp) on feebay. I saw the tab for it when I looked at Chris' rear handle Micro parts saw listing. Looks like the piston's in bad shape. It appears to be a sliding switch saw that's missing the switch guts. You can see the rectangular switch hole with the kill switch wire sticking out. Every one of these teal Craftsman 2.1's that I've seen have been have been PowerSharp versions.
Craftsman Chainsaw 14" for Parts or Repair | eBay
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I just looked at the pics in that auction again. The last pic, which shows an exhaust port with a roached piston IS A PIC OF ANOTHER SAW. The earlier blurry exhaust port pic IS of the teal Craftsman 25. That piston looks OK to me in that shot (although the pic is lousey and may not show damage that's there). It does look like a person should pull the jug and clean the carbon and gunk out in any case. A rering would be easy, as Sears still carries the rings for the 2.1 saws. I think I see the muffler parts zip-tied to the handle. That saw may well be worth tinkering with afterall. Looks like the PS parts have been removed (as they usually are). I have no connection with the seller.....
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Pp 336
Here is a Poulan Pro 336 I recently aquired. I gave it a complete cleaning, new carb kit, hoses, duckbill, air filter, a nos 16" .325 bar( I had ), new chain, rim srocket, and a new clutch I had from one of my 330's. I bored out the holes in the baffle plate and added a few more while the muffler was apart. It looks pretty good now. It was filthy when I got it, but had over 150psi. Hopefully give it a whirl soon.
Here is a Poulan Pro 336 I recently aquired. I gave it a complete cleaning, new carb kit, hoses, duckbill, air filter, a nos 16" .325 bar( I had ), new chain, rim srocket, and a new clutch I had from one of my 330's. I bored out the holes in the baffle plate and added a few more while the muffler was apart. It looks pretty good now. It was filthy when I got it, but had over 150psi. Hopefully give it a whirl soon.
poulan 451
hay guys i got this saw of eBay for $35 in unknown condition so it was a big gamble i got it today it had no pull-cord spark plug boot missing a few bolts i threw a cord in her and a spark plug boot and she fired right up with fresh mix i will start her up tomorrow as it is a bit to late at the moment man does she have some compression i don't know anything about this saw can anyone tell me how big it is what year any info will be much appreciated i need to make up a muffler for it aswell
hay guys i got this saw of eBay for $35 in unknown condition so it was a big gamble i got it today it had no pull-cord spark plug boot missing a few bolts i threw a cord in her and a spark plug boot and she fired right up with fresh mix i will start her up tomorrow as it is a bit to late at the moment man does she have some compression i don't know anything about this saw can anyone tell me how big it is what year any info will be much appreciated i need to make up a muffler for it aswell
Chris J.
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Bezza1, maybe I'm seeing things, but it looks as though the muffler is missing, and possibly the bolts are broken off in the cylinder. Are those carbon marks on the piston?
Chris J.
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I've done a lot of searching at Chain Saw Collectors Corner, and haven't been able to find a rear-handle version of the 38cc Poulan
. Did Poulan offer a RH model under the Poulan name?? According to the Craftsman OM they are 2.3/38cc.According to the Poulan manual I downloaded (which is missing the cover that IDs the saw!) the Poulan 2400 is a rear-handle saw.
According to Acres site it's the Canadian version of the S25CVA, a top-handle saw.
Man, that piston looks worse on my bigger computer screen at home now. But like you say it runs. I think I would pull it down, clean any transfer off the cylinder, polish any high spots off the piston and find a set of rings for it.
That saw is 4.5CI or 74cc and would have been made in I'm guessing 1966 and probably not longer then 67-68. Thats what I would call a rare one for sure and worth fixing up.
Like I said earlier, the muffler can be found, there the same on Poulan 361, 400, 401 as well as the rebadged Daytons etc. I think that a early 2 screw tin 306-245 muffler will work as well. The threads in the cyl for the muffler should be #12's.
I have a IPL for that saw that I will post here for you. It seems there were 2 versions of the 451. The regular manual oiler and a auto oiler version as well. Hard to tell from your pictures but I think yours is the manual only version.
I know that the 3.6 version of that saw, the 361 shares the same piston with the later 306 saws and wouldnt be surprised if a 245 piston wouldnt work on the 451. Yeah the 245 pistons are hard to come buy as well, but there out there.
Nice find on that saw!
Here is my 401 saw which is a 4.0CI version of yours.
I've done a lot of searching at Chain Saw Collectors Corner, and haven't been able to find a rear-handle version of the 38cc Poulan
According to the Poulan manual I downloaded (which is missing the cover that IDs the saw!) the Poulan 2400 is a rear-handle saw.
According to Acres site it's the Canadian version of the S25CVA, a top-handle saw.
Chris, there were 2 rear handle versions of the Micro. The 2100 and a 2400. The 2400 is 38cc and the 2100 is the smaller 34cc.
Chris J.
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Mark, thanks.
Is there any reason why the 2400 is rare? I'm basing my question/comment on what I've seen (or not seen) on eBay & CL.
Is there any reason why the 2400 is rare? I'm basing my question/comment on what I've seen (or not seen) on eBay & CL.
Nothing, just the color. And the Poulan Pro 4218 is the same as well but has anti vibe. All are the newer strattofied engines. The engine in all these newer saws are the same, the 3314, 3516, 3816, 4018, 4218, and what ever the heck in between models they have, all use the same 42cc cylinder and piston and the exact same PNs. What sucks is the Poulan Pro 4218s don't come with the chrome bore cylinders anymore either like the older PP260s. I have a 3314 myself which happens to be the exact same engine as the 4218 at 42cc, I muff modded mine and modded the A/F box, and tuned the carb, it runs real good now, just a bit low on power though.
Also since Husqvarna took full control of Poulan in 08 they've basically rendered Poulan as strickly a mass Consumer based product sold only in USA, and Poulan or Poulan Pro will never sell anything remotely "Pro" ever again. We are now left with fisher price products.
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nick 55
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Thanks! I can tell that the new stuff is nowhere near the build quality they used to be. Guess that's why I have 6 micros enroute right now and a 3400 that my father is giving to me because it is "hard starting". I'm guessing the carb is full of old fuel line from the higher ethanol fuels we get now. His loss!
Nick
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I receive a lot of boxes in the mail and the Post Office ladies never question me though I often get a few curious glances. Today I received this:
The lovely manageress at the PO gave me a very gentle warning and didn't believe my lie about it being an electric saw for an instant. Anyway it is a very interesting way to pack a nice 3400. It only came about 20 miles by post so there was no damage. It is clearly a low hour saw and will clean up really nicely. This is exactly how it was put away 20 years ago. The owner said he remembers it running fine but it suddenly stopped so he put it the shed and forgot about it.
I wonder why it stopped? The mass of tree fern fibres was in a solid mass right around the clutch. I pulled half of it away before I took the pic. Lucky it wasn't a palm tree as the whole case would have dissolved in that time.
Anyway the piston and bore are perfect (despite what the pic indicates) and it runs like a clock. Compression is down compared to my others so it will need a set of rings. It is my earliest, being a 1980 model and does not have a chain brake - something that pleases me. It will go on the back burner for a while but I think this one will become my truck saw.
Oh, the seller rang me last night to say he has seven more saws at his farm that I can have cheap. I am thinking more Poulans but he says he remembers only Husqvarnas and Canadiens. I told him I have lots of Husqvarnas and Canadiens but will consider them. Then he says he has his Dad's old Canadien that is BIG and has a helper handle on the end of the bar. He lives only 20 miles away so I have to find some time to go see them. My luck and they will be all Canadien 270's - heaps of those around here. I will report back if there are any Poulans.:msp_smile:
Al.
The lovely manageress at the PO gave me a very gentle warning and didn't believe my lie about it being an electric saw for an instant. Anyway it is a very interesting way to pack a nice 3400. It only came about 20 miles by post so there was no damage. It is clearly a low hour saw and will clean up really nicely. This is exactly how it was put away 20 years ago. The owner said he remembers it running fine but it suddenly stopped so he put it the shed and forgot about it.
I wonder why it stopped? The mass of tree fern fibres was in a solid mass right around the clutch. I pulled half of it away before I took the pic. Lucky it wasn't a palm tree as the whole case would have dissolved in that time.
Anyway the piston and bore are perfect (despite what the pic indicates) and it runs like a clock. Compression is down compared to my others so it will need a set of rings. It is my earliest, being a 1980 model and does not have a chain brake - something that pleases me. It will go on the back burner for a while but I think this one will become my truck saw.
Oh, the seller rang me last night to say he has seven more saws at his farm that I can have cheap. I am thinking more Poulans but he says he remembers only Husqvarnas and Canadiens. I told him I have lots of Husqvarnas and Canadiens but will consider them. Then he says he has his Dad's old Canadien that is BIG and has a helper handle on the end of the bar. He lives only 20 miles away so I have to find some time to go see them. My luck and they will be all Canadien 270's - heaps of those around here. I will report back if there are any Poulans.:msp_smile:
Al.
I receive a lot of boxes in the mail and the Post Office ladies never question me though I often get a few curious glances. Today I received this:
The lovely manageress at the PO gave me a very gentle warning and didn't believe my lie about it being an electric saw for an instant. Anyway it is a very interesting way to pack a nice 3400. It only came about 20 miles by post so there was no damage. It is clearly a low hour saw and will clean up really nicely. This is exactly how it was put away 20 years ago. The owner said he remembers it running fine but it suddenly stopped so he put it the shed and forgot about it.
I wonder why it stopped? The mass of tree fern fibres was in a solid mass right around the clutch. I pulled half of it away before I took the pic. Lucky it wasn't a palm tree as the whole case would have dissolved in that time.
Anyway the piston and bore are perfect (despite what the pic indicates) and it runs like a clock. Compression is down compared to my others so it will need a set of rings. It is my earliest, being a 1980 model and does not have a chain brake - something that pleases me. It will go on the back burner for a while but I think this one will become my truck saw.
Oh, the seller rang me last night to say he has seven more saws at his farm that I can have cheap. I am thinking more Poulans but he says he remembers only Husqvarnas and Canadiens. I told him I have lots of Husqvarnas and Canadiens but will consider them. Then he says he has his Dad's old Canadien that is BIG and has a helper handle on the end of the bar. He lives only 20 miles away so I have to find some time to go see them. My luck and they will be all Canadien 270's - heaps of those around here. I will report back if there are any Poulans.:msp_smile:
Al.
Nice saw Al. Ive heard here that some early 3400's has an adjustable oiler. I had a '79 (first year production I think) and it didnt have it and i have an '80 like yours and it doesn't either, but they are out there.
Thats a VERY nice looking 3400 you have Al.!!! The wrap job looks like a giant Aussie spider spun it into a cocoon. :msp_biggrin: Or a chainsaw mummy!
I have never seen one with an adjustable oiler either, like Joe mentioned. The only things I have ever been able to see different on early models was the small screw, rear counter vibe screw set up. Extra webbing in some of the castings for the crankcase and handle areas on later saws, than there was on earlier ones. And, the oil cap being different. The early ones seem to be more like the cap on a 306, 245, S25 etc.
Another thing I noticed, They must have changed their painting procedures over the years. I see yours has the recoil screws painted. My 3400, bought new in 1986, the screws were not painted. And, some like yours, I can see the tell tale over-spray on the cyl. fins. Where I have seen others that looked like they were masked off, and painted before the cylinder was installed. Just a few of the little things I have noticed on this series of saws. from my time with them.
While I dearly love my 245A, 5200 etc. for the power & features they boast. The 3400/3700/4000 series is still my favorite older Poulan saw.
Gregg,
I have never seen one with an adjustable oiler either, like Joe mentioned. The only things I have ever been able to see different on early models was the small screw, rear counter vibe screw set up. Extra webbing in some of the castings for the crankcase and handle areas on later saws, than there was on earlier ones. And, the oil cap being different. The early ones seem to be more like the cap on a 306, 245, S25 etc.
Another thing I noticed, They must have changed their painting procedures over the years. I see yours has the recoil screws painted. My 3400, bought new in 1986, the screws were not painted. And, some like yours, I can see the tell tale over-spray on the cyl. fins. Where I have seen others that looked like they were masked off, and painted before the cylinder was installed. Just a few of the little things I have noticed on this series of saws. from my time with them.
While I dearly love my 245A, 5200 etc. for the power & features they boast. The 3400/3700/4000 series is still my favorite older Poulan saw.
Gregg,
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Poulan 4000 Cylinder base gasket options
I got the compression checked on my Poulan 4000 and it is 90 psi. I have ordered new rings for it. I was wondering what gasket options there are for the cylinder base gasket. Can I just use something like Yamabond or high temp gasket maker? Is there enough clearance on the 4000 to go without a gasket?
Thanks
I got the compression checked on my Poulan 4000 and it is 90 psi. I have ordered new rings for it. I was wondering what gasket options there are for the cylinder base gasket. Can I just use something like Yamabond or high temp gasket maker? Is there enough clearance on the 4000 to go without a gasket?
Thanks
check your squish
Yes you can. But, Like Jerry said, I would ck the squish first to make sure what room you have to play with. From what I gather, these model Poulans have room to spare!. I have never personally tried going without a gasket. When I need one, I just make one out of cardboard beer or pop carton.
Gregg,
