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That chain is what my little 25 is running (still has the small bumpers on it), along with a Oregon Powermate rim drive with a 7t 3/8 lp sprocket. Yep she is a runner.

Randy, I just run across that rim setup that you sent me. I got a idea for it but alas, time isnt cooperating.

You know when I got up this morning, I was thinking there wasnt enough hours in the night, but then this evening, I got to thinking there wasnt enough hours in the day? :msp_scared:
 
Randy, I just run across that rim setup that you sent me. I got a idea for it but alas, time isnt cooperating.

You know when I got up this morning, I was thinking there wasnt enough hours in the night, but then this evening, I got to thinking there wasnt enough hours in the day? :msp_scared:

Mark, I came up with another saw build today. A 2400 with a 180 plated, ported, polished, and milled cylinder. Should make a very light 38cc screamer for a 16" NOS windsor bar........
 
I'd be VERY interested in a source for Oregon rim drive drums for XXV saws, especially if they take standard rims.

These came out of a closed down shop I bought out. The rim is a non standard 9 spline drive, oregon builds it that way so you can't put a standard rim on it.

At this point I've only got 1 left and I really want to keep it for a CVA I've got to build.
 
Mark, I came up with another saw build today. A 2400 with a 180 plated, ported, polished, and milled cylinder. Should make a very light 38cc screamer for a 16" NOS windsor bar........

No pictures? Didnt happen. :ices_rofl:

Actually that sounds pretty cool. Let us know how it rolls when your done.

Myself, I got to pull bushes and dig up mulch today with the ball and chain.
 
These came out of a closed down shop I bought out. The rim is a non standard 9 spline drive, oregon builds it that way so you can't put a standard rim on it.

At this point I've only got 1 left and I really want to keep it for a CVA I've got to build.

What was the Oregon part number for that rim drive drum? There were 3/8"LP and 1/4" rim/drum setups on feebay for a while, but the last one (a 1/4") sold recently. The seller didn't mention what the spline count of the rims were. He was asking a bit for 'em too. Do you have the Oregon part numbers for the 9-spline rims? If they were still selling their proprietary rims, then their use of the oddball spline count wouldn't be so frustrating......:bang:
 
Harvested this big yellow pine that had been struck by lightning and got a chance to snap this photo with a few of the clean up crew with the smallest and largest saws on the job, my saw is the little Poulan 1800 which actually came in handy crawling around in the branches of this beast.

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I have an Oregon rim drive that was on one of my S25DAs when I got it. Drum part number is 19779 and it has a 9 pin rim gear on it in 1/4" pitch. No part number that I can see on it.

I have some 1/4" chains and bars too if anybody is interested in all of it.

Nick

Edit: I'm also willing to trade for a 36" bar for a 655 too. LOL!
 
I have an Oregon rim drive that was on one of my S25DAs when I got it. Drum part number is 19779 and it has a 9 pin rim gear on it in 1/4" pitch. No part number that I can see on it.

I have some 1/4" chains and bars too if anybody is interested in all of it.

Nick

Edit: I'm also willing to trade for a 36" bar for a 655 too. LOL!

Thanks for the info Nick. Those drums aren't any good to me unless I can get the rims (dangit). I don't run 1/4" on any of my saws, save my craftsman 1.9/Poulan XX. That's because I haven't found a 3/8" LP spur for it yet.

There's a D007 mount 32" NOS Poulan Pro bar on feebay right now.
 
I have an Oregon rim drive that was on one of my S25DAs when I got it. Drum part number is 19779 and it has a 9 pin rim gear on it in 1/4" pitch. No part number that I can see on it.

I have some 1/4" chains and bars too if anybody is interested in all of it.

Nick

Edit: I'm also willing to trade for a 36" bar for a 655 too. LOL!

Never ran that kind of bar chain combo. Is that just for carving, useless for anything else?

Alas, I am fresh out of giant bars for swap. I can't even find anything longer than a 20 in the d176 mount around here. I know you can get them new, but...I'm cheap, well, frugal, have to balance saw stuff with rescue pet expenses, and they have to come first.

Ha, rescued pets..my boss just found me a free young donkey! The owner just didn't have the time for him, he's real nice and friendly. He is already more tamed up than the other one we have, and allegedly has been ridden a little. Gonna see what I can do with this guy, maybe a little cart or wagon for some high tech firewooding up in the woods where I can't take the tractor. Or a log arch, or something. See what I can make out of my junk pile. Mostly I have busted old riding mowers, it's a start, wheels and axles/rear ends anyway.
 
No, these aren't carving setups. Some of the older small saws used 1/4" chain. These are conventional sprocket nose bars and chains. I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that a 9 pin 1/4" sprocket it the equivalent to a 6 tooth 3/8" spur gear.

Nick
 
No, these aren't carving setups. Some of the older small saws used 1/4" chain. These are conventional sprocket nose bars and chains. I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that a 9 pin 1/4" sprocket it the equivalent to a 6 tooth 3/8" spur gear.

Nick

Sounds very close. I've heard 1/4" pitch chain referred to as "a herd of termites" before.
 
No, these aren't carving setups. Some of the older small saws used 1/4" chain. These are conventional sprocket nose bars and chains. I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that a 9 pin 1/4" sprocket it the equivalent to a 6 tooth 3/8" spur gear.

Nick

ahhh! So in other words, the same chain speed, just a much narrower kerf and a buncha teeny ya can't see um cutters to try and file...hmmm

OK, so far we have found a 10 inch regular 3/8ths low pro 50 gauge bar, but no 7 or 8 tooth sprockets that will fit, just sixes. You'd get some benefit anyway from the reduced bar length and weight, but no additional chain speed. You'd gain by using more advanced low pro chain, but still....

This design is weird, we are calling it a top handle, but really it's a mid handle design, sort of a tweener. It's not quite a tophandle, and not a rear handle. To me, a top handle means your control/ trigger finger hand is over the engine, like at a mid point/balance point.

Need an entire chassis mod to fix that, as in start from scratch and fab one somehow. The engine is great, just needs more ergo thought applied to it to make it a real tophandle.

Maybe I'll pull one of my junkers apart and just stare at the engine for awhile.
 
No, these aren't carving setups. Some of the older small saws used 1/4" chain. These are conventional sprocket nose bars and chains. I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that a 9 pin 1/4" sprocket it the equivalent to a 6 tooth 3/8" spur gear.

Nick

Nick most 1/4 pitch saws used a 8 tooth sprocket and I think thats about the same dia as a LP 6 tooth.

If you guys have not run 1/4 pitch, you will find that you will probably like 3/8lp better. With all the extra cutters the 1/4 has it takes some power to pull them! I dont think the kerf is narrower either.

I have a few here that are running 1/4 pitch but dont really run them as there "classic's" like the Lil Jon and the Allis Chalmers saws.
 
Is this for a XXV, like a micro? I still don't know all the small saws(or any for that matter).

Nick


The s25s with the 38cc engine, the "green bricks" from the main chainsaw forum thread of tophandle internet nastiness. Some dudes going on and on how crappy they were, when they rip like..not big dogs, but think a pit bull yapper poodle cross...

As in "OMG anyone no matter the situation can't cut wood unless it is a 600 buck and tax $tihl!!!! It won't cut, your hands will fall off, the neighbors will sue for emotional distress, you'll get dandruff, your kids won't come home from school, they'll camp out there instead, your dog will run away because he can't stand the noise.."" blah blah blah. It was annoying.

Ha, I'll take at least a good helping of blame, I was an instigator.

I'm not a wood snob, I'll burn anything composed of cellulose and lignin, nor am I a saw snob, I like cheap, runs, chain goes round and round brand saws. I have preferences now for cheap and runs, and definitely preferences now for working on them. I'll put up with minor things in order to maintain my "cheap and runs and easier to work on" stance. To ME, one lb or small change thereabouts is not enough difference to justify an additional 500 bucks (whatever) in cost to go cut these branches here, nor is one or two seconds more in the cut.

To other guys, that's a significant difference and they can justify the cost, and pay it willingly, either from just a personal satisfaction level, or a professional level, etc.

But....there's no reason to get nasty about it either way, and in the other threads, nastiness erupted for no reason at all.

It's lame..I lived in the motor city era during the heyday of the horsepower and street racing wars, ford/dodge/chevy fanatics, loons if ya ask me, it was insane, really. People actually *died* over that crap, got in wild fights, etc, street raced to wrecksville and killed themselves or others over..freeking brand loyalty? Nuts. I've been in the UAW and all my friends were at different places of the big three as well, it's just wfere we all worked. Those companies all made winners and lemons. Just the facts. I have owned good and bad with all three of them.

Same with saws or anything else, you got some good designs, you got some not so good, and plenty of "good enough" which will actually suit 99% of the wood cutting that goes on.
 
Sorry, what I meant by that was are you looking for a rim drive for a XXV? And is said XXV a micro or is it a small displacement version of an S25? If they utilize the same sprocket as an S25, I have a rim drive if someone wants it. The rim is 1/4" pitch so you would have to find a 3/8" rim but the clutch is half the battle.

Nick
 
Nick most 1/4 pitch saws used a 8 tooth sprocket and I think thats about the same dia as a LP 6 tooth.

If you guys have not run 1/4 pitch, you will find that you will probably like 3/8lp better. With all the extra cutters the 1/4 has it takes some power to pull them! I dont think the kerf is narrower either.

I have a few here that are running 1/4 pitch but dont really run them as there "classic's" like the Lil Jon and the Allis Chalmers saws.

You are right, the lp3/8 is a better all around performer. I do maintain one XXV with 1/4 to cut brush. Something about 1/4 seems to work well in the small stuff. The little cutters combined with old eyes do make sharpening a chore.
 
Aaron, do the XXs use the same spur sprocket as the S25s? I have an extra of one of those also.

Nick

The XX saws seem to use their own sprockets. Not XXV or Micro. I have heard/read that a Micro spur can be used, but I believe that is not correct.

Is this for a XXV, like a micro? I still don't know all the small saws(or any for that matter).

Nick

Nick, an XXV (or 25) isn't a Micro. Talking about the 34cc/2.1ci saws such as a 25DA and the 38cc/2.3ci saws such as the S25DA and S25-CVA. The confusion comes because Poulan reused "25", "XXV", and "Super 25" for some of the Micro saws. Some Micros (usually with "25" or "XXV" in their model name) share displacements with some of the XXV/25 saws too. A Micro has a two piece outer shell that encloses the engine and sepperate plastic fuel tank. All XXV family saws have a top and bottom chassis plate bolted to the crankcase and a metal fuel tank hung behind the cylinder. Clear as mud?

Nick most 1/4 pitch saws used a 8 tooth sprocket and I think thats about the same dia as a LP 6 tooth.

If you guys have not run 1/4 pitch, you will find that you will probably like 3/8lp better. With all the extra cutters the 1/4 has it takes some power to pull them! I dont think the kerf is narrower either.

I have a few here that are running 1/4 pitch but dont really run them as there "classic's" like the Lil Jon and the Allis Chalmers saws.

Yep. I'm trying to get away from 1/4" chain on my little Poulan XX/Craftsman 1.9. That's the only saw I have left that's 1/4" pitch.
 
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