wedge
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i was under the impression it was 2 stroke oil's job not to burn but to remain behind and lube the rings ect.
no smoke
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wedge
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thats simple, it goes to the same place that my left socks have dissappeared to
Wedge,
Was that car a 2.3 ? If so 258,000 miles on a 2.3T without problems is outstanding. You must have had a one in a million. The 2.3 was a good reliable motor but when the turbo was attached they were not real reliable. When I was building a race 2.3 I had a he'' of a time finding a good D-port head. They were basicly non-existent. I did find one and paid an arm and a leg for it. I decided against using it and it is still sitting on a shelf.
Bill
Was that car a 2.3 ? If so 258,000 miles on a 2.3T without problems is outstanding. You must have had a one in a million. The 2.3 was a good reliable motor but when the turbo was attached they were not real reliable. When I was building a race 2.3 I had a he'' of a time finding a good D-port head. They were basicly non-existent. I did find one and paid an arm and a leg for it. I decided against using it and it is still sitting on a shelf.
Bill
wedge
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it had a few problems but nothing major (water pumps turbo ect) iy had mobil 1 it had since new and ill tell you there is a big difference in those oils. i sold the car to my bosses son and hes still driving it to my knowledge. it was a 89 2.3l turbocharged intercooled. they called it a turbo coupe. it really was a cool car. the only thing that went in it big was the tranny got rebuilt twice.when i had it i did alot of driving to s.c. and florida. that car converted me from dodges to fords.
spacemule
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While some of the oil probably does burn, it does not completely burn. What doesn't burn is expelled through the exhause port. This is more readily apparent with 2 stroke model airplane engines that run on alchohol. They run a much higher oil ratio, (about 18-20%), and the exhaust leaves a slimy residue over whatever is near the outlet. While this is a different type engine, the theory of operation (porting, induction, etc.) is basically the same. So Rocky, are you saying that when something doesn't burn, it must stay in your engine? That doesn't make sense.
A two stroke expells about 30% unburnt fuel/air mixture. As such some oil is present in said mixture. The remaing fuel/air mix is combusted along with the oil present in it.
spacemule. Model engine get the varnish you are talking about because they use very high port timing numbers and also in many cases use castor oil based lubes. As a result of the radical port timing the engines are not very effeciant and as such expell alot of unburnt mix out the pipe.
BTW A properly tuned two cycle should have very little to no exhaust residue. Slimy exhaust outlets are a sign off overly rich mix and or crappy oil.
spacemule. Model engine get the varnish you are talking about because they use very high port timing numbers and also in many cases use castor oil based lubes. As a result of the radical port timing the engines are not very effeciant and as such expell alot of unburnt mix out the pipe.
BTW A properly tuned two cycle should have very little to no exhaust residue. Slimy exhaust outlets are a sign off overly rich mix and or crappy oil.
Lewis Brander
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Syn. Oils.
I finally got a reply from Mobil oil. They said to try Autozone and CSK Stores or call !-800- bla-bla-bla for service. No explanation why the local Advance Auto stores do not carry the MX2T oil. What is this CSK Stores? I've never heard of them. Now I know I must live in the boonies.
Hey. wedge. did you ever talk to noco to find out if they can supply the MX2T oil? What did you find out. Thanks. Lewis
I finally got a reply from Mobil oil. They said to try Autozone and CSK Stores or call !-800- bla-bla-bla for service. No explanation why the local Advance Auto stores do not carry the MX2T oil. What is this CSK Stores? I've never heard of them. Now I know I must live in the boonies.
Hey. wedge. did you ever talk to noco to find out if they can supply the MX2T oil? What did you find out. Thanks. Lewis
wedge
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noco can get it but only in 15 gal. kegs for the price of a new mercedes. the fella thinks he can get it in 5 gal hes supposed to call me back
Lewis Brander
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Reply to wedge:
Thanks for the reply. 5 gallon pail is more that I'd ever probably use. Have you ever heard of the CSK stores? I'd be happy to get a 6 qt or 12 pt case from them, if I could. Thanks again. Lewis.
Thanks for the reply. 5 gallon pail is more that I'd ever probably use. Have you ever heard of the CSK stores? I'd be happy to get a 6 qt or 12 pt case from them, if I could. Thanks again. Lewis.
MX2T only comes in pints.
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To Bwalker
If I'm not mistaking Avlube sells it in a 6, one qt case. I'll check. Lewis.
If I'm not mistaking Avlube sells it in a 6, one qt case. I'll check. Lewis.
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To Bwalker
OK, your right. They sell it in pts. 12 pts to a case. $38.45/case. plus shipping. Lewis.
OK, your right. They sell it in pts. 12 pts to a case. $38.45/case. plus shipping. Lewis.
I get it for under $30 per case from my local Mobil jobber. You might want to check your area for a mobil jobber.
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To Bwalker:
Guess I'll have to start calling the local Mobil Gas stations again. Called them, locally, once before and they didn't carry it. Let you know what happens this time. Lewis.
Guess I'll have to start calling the local Mobil Gas stations again. Called them, locally, once before and they didn't carry it. Let you know what happens this time. Lewis.
Forget the gas stations. Look in your phone book under lubricants and find your local Mobil distributor.
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To Bwalker:
OK, I'll try that. Thanks. Lewis.
OK, I'll try that. Thanks. Lewis.
wedge
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csk auto parts stores are mainly midwest west coast and alaska. you wont find one here in ny. like i said noco can only sell it in bulk as they are a manafacturing company (i thought mobil stuff was only made at one location,evidently theres several places that make their products)noco is in buffalo they make synthetic engine,tranny oil, greases ect. since i work for the biggest concrete company in the world we buy directly from them. it however makes buying low quantity a pain. im looking around for a place thatll sell it in bottles. maybe napa?
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Reply to wedge and Bwalker:
Bwalker, I've gone through the yellow and white pages of the local phone book. Nothing listed for Mobil Oil or Mobil lubricants.
Wedge, In the past few months I've called the local cycle shops. Mobil gas stations, Advance Auto stores, Wal-mart, snowmobile shops, the local speed shops, and Napa. Not ove carries the oil, let alone ever heard of it. I talked to the local Napa boys at our local store and they had never heard of MX2T Mobil syn. oil for motorcycle use. One clerk seemed interested and said he would check it out. Called them later, to see if they had found anything and they apparently lost interest or had forgoten about it. Guess I'll call the 1-800-645-7270 they gave me and see what they have to say. I would laugh if it was NOCO headquarters in Buffalo.
Thanks, guys for the replies. will let you know what I find out tomorrow. Advance Auto has also an 800 number I'll look up to see what they have to say about obtaining the oil. Take care. Lewis.
Bwalker, I've gone through the yellow and white pages of the local phone book. Nothing listed for Mobil Oil or Mobil lubricants.
Wedge, In the past few months I've called the local cycle shops. Mobil gas stations, Advance Auto stores, Wal-mart, snowmobile shops, the local speed shops, and Napa. Not ove carries the oil, let alone ever heard of it. I talked to the local Napa boys at our local store and they had never heard of MX2T Mobil syn. oil for motorcycle use. One clerk seemed interested and said he would check it out. Called them later, to see if they had found anything and they apparently lost interest or had forgoten about it. Guess I'll call the 1-800-645-7270 they gave me and see what they have to say. I would laugh if it was NOCO headquarters in Buffalo.
Thanks, guys for the replies. will let you know what I find out tomorrow. Advance Auto has also an 800 number I'll look up to see what they have to say about obtaining the oil. Take care. Lewis.
You guys dont have any Autozones near you? You can always order it from www.avlube.com
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Ben, I checked out Av lube. their cost/ pt is $3.20 or $38.45/case. When you add shipping of $10.54 to that, it's $4.08/pt. To me that's a little steep. My second choice for oil might be the Echo brand. but don't see it offered in this area. I doupt if the Homelite easy pour is offered in this area. No there is no Autozones in this emediate area. the closest is 70 miles away, in Watertown, NY. I've tried to order from them on line, but got a notification that they don't ship lubricants by UPS or the mail. EPA regs. afraid of oil spillage, etc. I'll call Mobil and Advance auto (1-877-808-0698) customer service number, tomorrow and see what they have to say. Thanks. Lewis.
Ben, I checked out Av lube. their cost/ pt is $3.20 or $38.45/case. When you add shipping of $10.54 to that, it's $4.08/pt. To me that's a little steep. My second choice for oil might be the Echo brand. but don't see it offered in this area. I doupt if the Homelite easy pour is offered in this area. No there is no Autozones in this emediate area. the closest is 70 miles away, in Watertown, NY. I've tried to order from them on line, but got a notification that they don't ship lubricants by UPS or the mail. EPA regs. afraid of oil spillage, etc. I'll call Mobil and Advance auto (1-877-808-0698) customer service number, tomorrow and see what they have to say. Thanks. Lewis.
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