Nor Cal & North SF Bay GTG (November 11-14, 2022)

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Here's an old photo of one of my helpers. She's sitting between what were the smallest (30.5cc Craftsman 1.9/Poulan XXD) and largest (120cc McCulloch 77) saws I had at that time. The McCulloch 77 now belongs to Mark H and is a strong runner. That's 5/8" pitch chain (and the little Poulan has 1/4" pitch). The muffler is off as I'd just taken a pic of the piston through the port. The mud dauber nest on the ground was IN the muffler. There were two more nests under the flywheel cover...

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A more recent pic of the same helper. She'd just finished helping me stock my 'new' shop fridge and was trying out my mesh cutting goggles.....

My oldest helped me clean up the McCulloch 10-10A that I donated to a raffle last year. She also helped me rebuild the carb, and is studying the parts breakdown for a Tillotson HL (my favorite carb, and a model that shares initials with this helper) so that she can passs a quiz that will then allow her to get her ears pierced.:D
 
Looking at my map of the area today. They have a lot of vineyards and wineries up there. A little too trendy for my taste, but it beats SoCal by a mile.

In the 1950s, my mother used to drag my sister and I with her to visit her friends in the sticks just south of St Helena. I was about 15-18 years old at the time. At that time, the local cops were death on traffic violations. The rule was, don't even think of exceeding the posted speed limits and don't even dare to roll over the white line next to the stop signs. I remember that it rained cats and dogs the week of easter vacation.
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Meals should be kept as simple as possible. Perhaps a large community pot-luck on Saturday afternoon. The hot food (meat and a big pot of beans) could be prepared in the main galley and side dishes could be pot-luck. A large pot of hot coffee in the main galley from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning. Perhaps a hitch-up breakfast on Sunday morning. All other meals would be up to individuals.

25+ guys trying to cook at once would be interesting. Bringing precooked meat, such as BBQ/pulled pork, would make the Sat dinner a lot easier. I don't think that anybody wants to cook all day/night/next morning. Sides will hold in coolers for a day or two.
 
25+ guys trying to cook at once would be interesting. Bringing precooked meat, such as BBQ/pulled pork, would make the Sat dinner a lot easier. I don't think that anybody wants to cook all day/night/next morning. Sides will hold in coolers for a day or two.

I go on 5 day camping trips two or three times a year with friends. In fact I am leaving for one Wednesday. We each cook our own food the entire time. Breakfast is usually eggs with sausage, onions and peppers or pancakes. For lunch I bring hard salami or pepperoni on rolls with cheese and chips on the side. For dinner I bring meals from Trader Joe's that aren't in the refrigerator case. They have decent hash. I have made pasta with pesto sauce. Sometimes I'll dice up some potatoes and fry them with onions and peppers.

Before I leave I put some frozen burgers on pieces of tin foil with spices and slices of onion. The first night they get thrown in the fire and fished out when they are done. That's dinner. I bring a package of hamburger buns for that dinner. The rest of the buns are used for lunch the rest of the time out.

I have a camp stove that I use to cook on the tailgate of my truck. I have done this for years. One of the guys I go camping with says I eat better in the desert than he does at home. Then again he gets his food at the Dollar Store. By the third day he is felling bad. That's what you get when you eat for $3 a day.

From the descriptions of the campground this place will be luxury accommodations compared to what I am used to. Showers, toilets, running water and electricity are not things I am used to when camping. The food you are talking about sounds good but if we need to provide meals for ourselves we should be ok. I for one am prepared.

My 4 YO keeps talking about the "chainsaw festival". He really wants to go bad. I bought him a youth sleeping bag that I will show him this afternoon. My wife thinks he will ask to sleep in it tonight.
 
Don't get too wrapped up in the details. Things come together. Like coffee. I carry stuff to make my own because sometimes I get up earlier than most people.

At the Montana GTG in June, the first person up--Madhatte beat me one morning, puttered around finding stuff and made coffee for everybody. We earlybirds usually made a small pot for us, then at a more civilized time, plugged in the big coffeemaker.

The same goes with food. Just bring a dish to share. Potlucks are good things. Even chips are welcome.
 
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breakfast we do a united effort, lunch is fend for your self and dinner could be a suicide potluck..

do we have a head count for how many are coming? so we don't all buy way too much food....

bruce, aaron maybe we should have everyone PM one of us for an RSVP
 
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i'm thinking about

breakfast we do a united effort, lunch is fend for your self and dinner could be a suicide potluck..

do we have a head count for how many are coming? so we don't all buy way too much food....

bruce, aaron maybe we should have everyone PM one of us for an RSVP

Dave are you going to the meeting on Sunday the 26th?
 
Kids these days......

Dave are you going to the meeting on Sunday the 26th?


who what??


Frank, I'll try to answer what I can - but some of your questions are better addressed by the Ranger -Sandy Jones. Please email her at [email protected] for some of the technical details about food prep locations and such.

Right now we are thinking incoming on Friday, bigger group on Saturday, some stuff and departing on Sunday.

For all - this is the first GTG for this area/location, so it will be somewhat rough. We'll have glitches and issues that can be worked out for next year after we see how it goes. I suggest trying to be as self sufficient as possible this time through. Once we have one GTG under our belt, we can form groups and address the cooking, lodging, etc. for a possibly bigger follow-on event.

The basics are:

50 unit campground with tables, fire rings, tent sites and parking spurs that will take up to 24 ft motor home or pick-up and big camper. There are few that might take a bit more, but maneuvering around the loop road will lead to limb rubs on a bigger machine.

The Campground has two combo restrooms with hot showers ($.25 timers - a dollar will probably get you clean). There are faucets located around the campground loop. There are also 4 Walk-in Sites where you park in small common lot and walk into your tent site - probably 50 yds max.

There is one Group Camp area for family reunion sized bunches all camping together. It can accommodate 30 people with tents (bring them) and park about 10 cars. Group Camp is on reservation year round, so it is through Reserve America service.

There is separate Day Use Area which is probably 3 to 5 acres is located lower in the park and parallel to Highway 29. Has one combo restroom and lots of pic-nic tables with Belson stoves (charcoal or wood). For this even, we are planning to park larger motor homes in the Day Use Area overnight. We can handle maybe 5 or 6 bigger rigs... In this area is where we will be having whatever events we want like antique show, test running gear, doing maintenance demos, etc.

There is a roofed over area with a sink and cooking space called the "Ramada". The Ranger has held this facility for the GTG. This is where I'd suggest cooking for a larger group if we want to have a "Chuck Wagon" for the GTG participants.

We also have a outdoor AV area with a screen and benches nearby. It'll be OK in the evening for showing slides or maybe video with a projector?

I will look into a PayPal account to receive funds and help reserve spaces and such. that is a very good suggestion. I just asked and we don't have one set up for stuff like this yet. Maybe in a few weeks ...

We will likely advertize this "event" in the local small town papers as we need to let the general visiting public know that there is a larger group event happening at the Park so they don't show up and get surprised when all they wanted to do was go for a hike or something. Once we do that, we'll have some local show for the GTG, so the day use crowd may expand to the order of 100 or so.

OBTW - for any of you planning to help organize this, Ranger Jones has called a planning meeting for 2:00PM on Sunday on August 26th to start working out the wrinkles and details. Please keep the ideas coming and let us know if you can help with the organizing?

Sunday 8/26/2012 @ 2:00PM. Park ranger's office. BE THERE!:msp_thumbup:
 
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I don't think you understand. My 4 YO isn't interested in the park. He wants to see chainsaws. He keeps asking me, "Daddy when are we going to the chainsaw festival and sleep in the truck?" He already told me that he is sleeping in the bed of the truck and we will have the camper shell and the 9' CB antenna. He loves to watch chainsaws and wants to see a bunch of them running at once. He is used to long road trips but he hasn't camped before so a short weekend trip like this is perfect.

The things you are talking about doing; historical saws run by guys in period costume, talks by retired loggers, cookie cutting appeal to me and I think he will like it too. I am really looking forward to it.

One suggestion: We should have name badges with out AS handle and real name so we can put a face with a name and handle. For instance mine would say Bob95065 and Bob Elliott. What do you think?

I do understand. The chainsaw kids will be easy enough to entertain. But the wives and some of the siblings may want other options ...

Duct Tape works for me :)
 
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