Not a C faller :)

[snapple]

You ain't kiddin' about the wolves. Deer and elk #'s are down significantly but I did see a 7x8 bull in the back of a truck when I drove through Plains the other day. Haven't had a chance to get out yet...hopefully this weekend. Where you located?

 

[Metals406]

I'm west of Kalispell.

 

[FSburt]

You ain't kiddin' about the wolves. Deer and elk #'s are down significantly but I did see a 7x8 bull in the back of a truck when I drove through Plains the other day. Haven't had a chance to get out yet...hopefully this weekend. Where you located?

Heard out great Calif Gov went and banned using dogs for hunting bears so here we are again good ole Calif liberals getting their way again with the DFG laws WTF is next. Geez.

 

[Metals406]

Heard out great Calif Gov went and banned using dogs for hunting bears so here we are again good ole Calif liberals getting their way again with the DFG laws WTF is next. Geez.

CA is a test bed for bad legislation in all the other states.

 

[Samlock]

Heard out great Calif Gov went and banned using dogs for hunting bears so here we are again good ole Calif liberals getting their way again with the DFG laws WTF is next. Geez.

That doesn't leave much choice but shooting (or poisoning) over a bait, does it? An uncivilized method, if you ask me.

A couple of weeks ago a mate showed me GPS tracking data from the collar of his bear dog. The dog had barked around a bear through whole Sunday, but the guy never got close enough. Well, after dark he had to leave, but the dog stood with the bear. According to the GPS the two had slept side by side and started the game all over at the break of dawn. Next day at work the guy noticed the dog being close to a road and he drove by to shoot the bear during his lunch break.

Maybe not very sporty from the guy, but the teddy had a fair chance.

 

[northmanlogging]

I think Warshington beat ya all to banning dogs back in the mid 90s, their reason was that the bear and cougar population was getting to low, I don't think animal cruelty was a big factor. Dogs are still used on problem animals, finding smokey the bear in your dumpster makes the straights and the crookeds forget that they are vegetarians

 

[OlympicYJ]

I think Warshington beat ya all to banning dogs back in the mid 90s, their reason was that the bear and cougar population was getting to low, I don't think animal cruelty was a big factor. Dogs are still used on problem animals, finding smokey the bear in your dumpster makes the straights and the crookeds forget that they are vegetarians

It was just about shutting two methods of hunting down, hounds and traps. Next it will be auto loading shotguns or some BS like that.vThe bear numbers were perfectly fine and cats were low but not low enough for cause to worry. Besides they could of just closed the season for a couple years and let them come back. Well now they are back. I know of some guys that were running cats between two river valleys and they treed 8 cats. They thought maybe 2 or 3 could have been repeats but weren't sure if they were. They were treeing them but not shooting them which is legal practice. Deer numbers my way have dropped big time and I was within 15 feet of a cat last fall myself.

Also too many people are seeing cats just out in the open and in town. Back when my dad and grandpa ran cats they said you hardley ever saw cat tracks and it was a big deal if someone got a cat. They weren't endangered or anything they just weren't as plentiful and they had fear of humans. I also know of an old hound hunter that was out doing mtn beaver trapping on Weyco and saw a big cat. Said it was bigger than his sons 160 pound Oregon cat and it just glared at him in his truck and walked off the road wasn't afraid one bit. Even the Washington Dept. of Fish and Game were against it but didn't speak out. They are the managers they should explain the reasons why it shouldn't have been removed from their toolbox. I'll get off my stump now lol

 

[H 2 H]

I ran Nutrient Enhancement Projects (in other words I pinched fish carcuses in upper creeks that feed Skagit River) on Skagit Watershed for like 12 years in the mid 90's thru mid 00"s. There was plenty of cougars and bears up there LOL

That's me 150 lbs heavier than I am now :msp_wink:

I would get about 300 to 400 carcuses at a time at the Marblemont Hatchery and head to feeder creeks in the hill's; I would go back with another load and I would usually see bears or cougars in the water trying to get the fish I dumped in the stream earlier that day. Back then I had Forest Service keys to get thru there gates :msp_wink:

Even had bear hunters ask me were I was going next to dump carcuses something about dead fish they made good bait for them bears