Now I'm Angry

[MasterBlaster]

Humility? Climbers?

 

[Dadatwins]

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
Humility? Climbers?

Humble tree climbers? ha ha<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_208.gif' border=0></a>

Next there will groundworkers that know how to tie a bowline!

 

[John Stewart]

Originally posted by Dadatwins
Humble tree climbers? ha ha<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_208.gif' border=0></a>

Next there will groundworkers that know how to tie a bowline!

Don't you mean untie

 

[Stumper]

Tony, One more caveat-Be wary of anyone who puts down their co-workers. It is very common ---but if they'll backstab anyone they may backstab you too.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Originally posted by Stumper
Tony, One more caveat-Be wary of anyone who puts down their co-workers. It is very common ---but if they'll backstab anyone they may backstab you too.

Ditto that, Justin. And that goes for online intercourse, also.

 

[Jumper]

Originally posted by Dadatwins
Humble tree climbers? ha ha<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_208.gif' border=0></a>

Next there will groundworkers that know how to tie a bowline!

I mastered that one years ago, so what does that make me?

Yeah Tony it is a b*tch being a. the newbie b. being the sole groundguy for two climbers (been there done that, note not doing it any more) and c. getting frustrated at the job.

Believe you me there are more advantageous outlets to get rid of frustrations. Hope things work out for you here, if not look for another job with a climber who wants to develop your skills.

 

[John Stewart]

Online what?

 

[MasterBlaster]

 

[Ross Turner]

I started off dragging brash & still do,As everyone has said start at the bottom & work up thats the best way.
Once you start climbing you will think about the guys on the ground clearing up for you & think back,i can be a right chit & just keep dropping brash or work to make the site a safer one by dropping a few limbs & letting the ground crew clean up before you drop anymore.
Under safety at work you have a responsability to keep a clean work site.

 

[Jumper]

Well put. Some people I have worked with just could not grasp the fact that it takes longer to remove a tangled mass of branches than it does to remove them as they fall. Another guy dropped huge chunks, OK fine, but would not let me cut them into manageable sizes, so you ended up tripping over logs in the landing area as well; their value as firewood was worth more than my safety I guess.....

 

[SilverBlue]

Good points from the Groundman's point, however the safety of the climber always takes precedence and deserves the right to finish his/her job as easy as possible.

 

[okietreedude1]

As for dropping logs onto brush piles, I sometimes like that pile to BE there. It helps save the yard or sidewalks from large divets. Even having one piece firewood acts as a deflector.

 

[Ross Turner]

Originally posted by SilverBlue
Good points from the Groundman's point, however the safety of the climber always takes precedence and deserves the right to finish his/her job as easy as possible.

Yes i agree,but why should the climber take precedence?,ok he wants to finnish the job as quickly & easy as possible(i know i do),but why does his saftey come first as Jumper stated the groundsman could have an accident on the ground if he has to climb over big logs & loads of brash.
If the climber is the type who helps clear the site fair enough but its the climbers who says see you later guys my job is done are the worst offenders.

 

[Jumper]

The climber is the one that makes the $$$$, and I did work one place that generally had one climber and two ground guys in support. It seemed to me that we got a lot more work done than when the opposite was the case, as the climber was making the $$$$ and the ground guys were keeping up. My safety is of equal importance though I do not dispute the fact that the climber is the one who has to look after himself up there, but some I have worked with were counterproductive in the long run. It does not make sence for someone earning double what I am to spend time cleaning up if the mess had not been compounded by factors that could have been avoided in the first place. I never worked with anyone that said see you later so can not comment on that one. Also agree that some "cushion" is a good idea in certain circumstances, but not to the point that the entire yard is covered in debris.