Oak Tree Questions with Pics

[limbwalker54]

Hey treeMDS.....this is on the subject of beech bark disease.....check for phytothyphora.....sounds like you might have bleeding canker in relation to both the root stress from the excavation as well as onset of phytothyphora. I am dealing with a beech right now that has signs of two lined chestnut borer and phytothyphora and combined they have caused a lot of bleeding canker that has stressed one side of the tree...which happens to also be where an excavation was done for a walkway....

Just another angle....maybe it'll help you on yours....


-Mike

 

[tree MDS]

Hey treeMDS.....this is on the subject of beech bark disease.....check for phytothyphora.....sounds like you might have bleeding canker in relation to both the root stress from the excavation as well as onset of phytothyphora. I am dealing with a beech right now that has signs of two lined chestnut borer and phytothyphora and combined they have caused a lot of bleeding canker that has stressed one side of the tree...which happens to also be where an excavation was done for a walkway....

Just another angle....maybe it'll help you on yours....


-Mike

Thanks mike. I was looking at that too. Whatever is causing the dieback probably preceeded the septic trench, sinse it has only been there sinse the end of september. I'm really not ready to get this intense with that side of arboriculture just yet, so I made a call to a local arborist friend of mine, should hear back latter today. He offered up use of his air spade to me once before, hopefully we can figure out whats going on together. I just dont want to add to this tree's problems, so I'm going to take precaution and make sure everything is done right. At any rate, I'm working on it. Thanks again.

 

[treeseer]

On the tuliptree, it looks like it was totally buried, no wonder the heartrot. And btw heartrot makes for some strength loss but much less than it looks like. Still the tap test failed on that tree; it needed more assessment. Main problem with it tho may have been the fill job.

When in doubt take it out. The commitment is lifetime when you cable and brace,

O boy there is the utility mantra again. :deadhorse:

Here's the arborist mantra:

If you don't know, let it grow.

re lifetime commitment, what does that mean?

ALL trees are lifetime commitments. Cabling material is warrantied for 30 years.

And Dan, rusty mufflers cannot grow new tissue, while trees can. Try a new anal-ogy. :yourock:

 

[ROOTSXROCKS]

On the tuliptree, it looks like it was totally buried, no wonder the heartrot. And btw heartrot makes for some strength loss but much less than it looks like. Still the tap test failed on that tree; it needed more assessment. Main problem with it tho may have been the fill job.
O boy there is the utility mantra again. :deadhorse:

Here's the arborist mantra:

If you don't know, let it grow.

re lifetime commitment, what does that mean?

ALL trees are lifetime commitments. Cabling material is warrantied for 30 years.

And Dan, rusty mufflers cannot grow new tissue, while trees can. Try a new anal-ogy. :yourock:

I really admire your dedication to saving what you can.

 

[danieltree]

On the tuliptree, it looks like it was totally buried, no wonder the heartrot. And btw heartrot makes for some strength loss but much less than it looks like. Still the tap test failed on that tree; it needed more assessment. Main problem with it tho may have been the fill job.
O boy there is the utility mantra again. :deadhorse:

Here's the arborist mantra:

If you don't know, let it grow.

re lifetime commitment, what does that mean?

ALL trees are lifetime commitments. Cabling material is warrantied for 30 years.

And Dan, rusty mufflers cannot grow new tissue, while trees can. Try a new anal-ogy. :yourock:

Cabling material may be rated for 30 years but your work done on the tree is not. Trees have a lifespan like everything else they are not immortal. Trying to save a tree like this oak in a residential area were trees are at a disadvantage already seems to me as just putting off the inevitable. OK this tree had a good run but it is now time to step aside and give the new guy a chance. So I cable and brace this tree and it ends up having to be removed in 10 years anyway well in ten years time with a nice specimen of a tree i can have something that is pretty nice and poses much less risk to my property. Can you give the customer a 100 percent guarantee that your arborist skills will keep this tree safe.I do residential work as well and I put customer safety over tree preservation every time.​

 

[bigredd]

On the tuliptree, it looks like it was totally buried, no wonder the heartrot. And btw heartrot makes for some strength loss but much less than it looks like. Still the tap test failed on that tree; it needed more assessment. Main problem with it tho may have been the fill job.


You are dead on Treeseer about the Poplar Tree. Apparantly fill dirt was pushed over the base when they poored the driveway in 1985. There were active termites eating the heartwood when we cut it.